Re: Re: Re: compiling from tarballs

[michael <michael selectrec net>]

OK.
I applologize even though i was refered to as DUDE.
But I see no refrence in his email to a question about a gnumeric-0.46.rpm.
Furthermore since he is as green as i am, he doesn't no the appropriate
packages to download. So why not make sure your up to snuff with everything.
At least least i tried to help and all you've done is wast bandwith such as i'm
doing now trying to defend myself.
Does any one else have feedback on this. I need a second opinion.






On Sat, 1 Jan 2000, Data Zone wrote:
> Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 21:34:01 -0600
> To: gnome-list@gnome.org
> From: Data Zone <datazone@airmail.net>
> Reply-To: Data Zone <datazone@airmail.net>
> Subject: Re: Re: compiling from tarballs
> 
> Okay dude, i don't think you understood what he was asking.  he didn't 
> ask for help on installing gnome. just wanted to know how to get rpms of 
> the latest and greatest gnome stuff that only seem to be available in 
> tarballs.  therefore you just confused the matter for no apparent 
> reason.
> 
> Therefore, the next time you decide to help someone, make sure you are 
> actually helping them, else you are just making matters worse.
> 
> 
> 
> Leland Elie
> MIS Guy
> 
> 
> On Sat, 01 Jan 2000 15:42:24 michael wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 1 Jan 2000, Dave Reed wrote:
> > > Date: 1 Jan 2000 01:17:26 -0000
> > > To: twilson@csufresno.edu
> > > From: Dave Reed <dreed@capital.edu>
> > > Subject: Re: compiling from tarballs
> > > 
> > > > Resent-Cc: 
> > > > MBOX-Line: From gnome-list-request@gnome.org  Fri Dec 31 20:00:32 1999
> > > > From: Todd Wilson <twilson@csufresno.edu>
> > > > 
> > > > Please pardon me if this is a stupid question, but I couldn't find an
> > > > explanation in the FAQ or Getting Started pages.  I have a RH 6.1
> > > > system and have been wanting to use some of the recent releases
> > > > announced on this list -- e.g., gnumeric-0.46.  When I go to the RH
> > > > Package Installation page at www.gnome.org, I find that the version
> > > > there is gnumeric-0.38.  Vaguely remembering it being said that recent
> > > > releases are only available in tarball, I go to the Installation from
> > > > Tarball page, and, indeed, gnumeric-0.46 is there.  When I go to
> > > > install it, I find that I need libglade-0.11.  Fair enough; I download
> > > > and install that first.  When gnumeric's configure complains again
> > > > that my libglade is still too old, I go back and find an instruction
> > > > on the download page that implies that I have to remove the libglade
> > > > package that came with my distribution first.  When I try to do this,
> > > > of course, I get a message about many broken dependencies.
> > > > 
> > > > My question:  Does this mean that I'm basically going to have to
> > > > remove most of my gnome packages, re-install them from tarball, do
> > > > something to my /etc/ld.so.conf, and possibly other stuff just to try
> > > > out one program (gnumeric-0.46)?  Or, possibly, that I'm either going
> > > > to have to go all tarball or all RPM, not a mixture of both?  Is there
> > > > a document that I haven't seen that explains this in some detail (/usr
> > > > vs. /usr/local, gnome-config getting confused, etc.)?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I find the easiest thing to do is put the newer versions in /usr/local
> > > and put /usr/local/bin first in the PATH variable and LD_LIBRARY_PATH
> > > variable so that the configure scripts find the newer version and
> > > older version will still work (no need to remove the older versions).
> > > I'm still running RH 5.2 with the newer versions of gtk/gnome in
> > > /usr/local using this method.
> > > 
> > > > Related question:  I also vaguely remember it being said that the
> > > > process of producing RPMs from tarballs is not very complicated, but
> > > > that, because developers understandably didn't want to be in the RPM
> > > > business, there was bound to be some lag time before they get produced
> > > > (eight releases worth, in the case of gnumeric).  Is there any reason
> > > > why scripts cannot be written that will create the necessary RPMs
> > > > automatically from the tarballs and place the resulting files in the
> > > > ftp area, so as to eliminate this lag time?  Or, more likely, am I
> > > > completely misunderstanding the situation?
> > > 
> > > It's just a matter of someone creating the SPEC file for it - I'm not
> > > a RPM expert so I just usually put all things from .tar.gz files in
> > > /usr/local and don't worry if my RPM database isn't upto date for
> > > things that I want newer versions than the distribution includes.
> > > 
> > > HTH,
> > > Dave
> > > 
> > > 
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> > 
> > The best way to prepare your system for installing things from tarball
> > is to use GnoRPM.
> > Use the Web Find feature.
> > Note: you can select Operation-prefrences-distribution tab.Here you can 
> define
> >         download sites corresponding to what type of files you want (ie:
6.0
> > updates) to download.
> > Ive found that the newst versions are the ones that will download 
> succesfully.
> > Next step : Go to the GNOME web site , find the fact page telling you about
> > what order to install GNOME-packages.
> > 
> > Then go back to your web find and download what ever GNOME updates
> > you need + there corresponding development packages.
> > 
> > This will also get you going if you want to dabble with cvs packages.
> > However that subject is beyond the scope of this quickely document.
> > Hope this help.
> > 
> > Also its the year 2000!!!! WOW!!!!!!!!
> > 
> > 
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