Re: CVS debacle

["Jay Nordwick" <nordwick scam XCF Berkeley EDU>]

>Guys,
>
>I'm sure most of you have noticed, but gnome anonymous CVS is a sick
>experiment in human patience.  Why are we putting ourselves through
>this?  If the anon CVS servers were in sync and up-to-date with the
>announcements made on this list and on www.gnome.org, traffic on this
>list would be decimated, and actual debugging/programming might even
>occur.
>
>I really would like to help debug gnome and write my own gnome news
>reader, but I almost never have time to work on the actual code between
>cursing and kicking my computer when gnome CVS is broken.  Skilled
>developers with good ideas who want to contribute are a valuable
>resource, and I think the sorry state of CVS is going to scare them
>away.  If I was interested in gnome for the first time, I would
>immediately become disinterested when my first 10^4897549875 attempts to
>build it went awry.
>

I would like to second this.  I have been trying to get a checkout and update
of various modules, but it takes me literally hours to get an update done...
by that time, I don't have time to actually hack any code.  I am using -z3
on cvs.gnome.org.  I am almost scared away.  I am willing to contribute
and seeing as I am probably one of relatively few using FreeBSD and NetBSD,
I am trying to make sure it runs well on those platforms; but I can't get
an update from CVS and am ready to quit.

An idea would be to use cvsup like FreeBSD uses.  It works great.  I can
do a cvs update of my entire source tree (all of /usr/src and /usr/ports)
in relatively little time.  If anybody is intersted I can get the info
on how to setup the cvsup server and install it).

>Regards,
>Jeffrey Baker

-jay

P.S., for the 5 minutes it took to type this, ORBit is *still* updating with
no changes so far.

Also all the "cvs [checkout aborted]: connect to anoncvs.gnome.org:2401
failed: Connection refused" messages are really starting to suck.