Re: Marketing, GNOME 3.0 and subteams

[Paul Cutler <pcutler foresightlinux org>]

I'm blind, my apologies.

Paul

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna <sri ramkrishna me> wrote:
> It was under Creative Commons.  The gnome-journal front page lists that the
> work is distributed under the CC-SA 2.0 license.
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> sri
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> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Paul Cutler <pcutler foresightlinux org>
> wrote:
>>
>> Sri's idea below about doing a content sharing agreement with groups
>> such as Red Hat Magazine made me wonder what, if any, copyright GNOME
>> Journal is under.
>>
>> We are having a similar conversation about copyright on the
>> Documentation team mailing list right now as are considering dual
>> licensing docs under GFDL and CC-SA 3.0.  Luis is part of that
>> discussion as well, so I took the liberty of copying him on this email
>> (Sorry Luis!)
>>
>> Has this been discussed before and I've missed it?  With plans to
>> publish issue 14 this Friday, I'd love to have this nailed down.  I
>> don't see any information regarding copyright on the gnomejournal.org,
>> including on the About page.
>>
>> My personal recommendation would be CC-SA 3.0 (which includes
>> attribution).  I would assume that any contributing authors would need
>> to agree to this going forward?  Do we have to confirm individually
>> with each author at time of article submission, or is publishing it on
>> lgo good enough?  What concerns might there be?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Sriram Ramkrishna <sri ramkrishna me>
>> Date: Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 11:33 AM
>> Subject: Re: Marketing, GNOME 3.0 and subteams
>> To: Stormy Peters <stormy gnome org>
>> Cc: Alex Hudson <home alexhudson com>, GNOME Marketing List
>> <marketing-list gnome org>
>>
>>
>> GNOME Journal is doing a series of articles on various parts of GNOME
>> 3.0 includeing gnome-zeigist, gnome-shell and so forth.  If you want
>> to do marketing I highly suggest we use the Journal for articles.
>> Morever, I want to start doing some kind of content sharing agreement
>> with red hat magazine and others so that they can publish our articles
>> to a larger audience.  As well, we want them translated for print
>> magazines.  This is how we can get our message far and wide.
>>
>> We want to build anticipation, and we want to woo developers first so
>> that they can create apps that are 3.0 ready.
>>
>> sri
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Stormy Peters <stormy gnome org> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Alex Hudson <home alexhudson com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Stormy Peters wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> + Identify our target audience(s). Do we want to communicate with
>> >>> existing GNOME users, all free desktop users, or try to reach out to
>> >>> non-free-desktop users? (I think we can safely leave communicating with
>> >>> developers up to the developers themselves.)
>> >>> + Identify our key messages. What's new/interesting/cool about GNOME
>> >>> 3.0. Who will it benefit? How?
>> >>
>> >> I'd like to proffer an observation on the above two points: part of
>> >> what people are talking about being cool about GNOME 3.0 is the developer
>> >> platform being streamlined and modernized. Although we want to evangelise
>> >> the benefits, the most powerful message wouldn't be GNOME saying that stuff
>> >> (we would, wouldn't we?) but having a series of other projects saying that.
>> >>
>> >> If there was an early marketing campaign toward developers expounding
>> >> the virtues of the new platform, and the stuff you can do with it, by the
>> >> time we get around to release maybe we could have the results of that to
>> >> show as well - either independent apps talking up GNOME 3, or in-house dev
>> >> teams saying nice things, that kind of thing. As a concrete example, with
>> >> Firefox being Gtk-bound already, are there examples where the GNOME
>> >> integration story there could be improved and/or new GNOME 3 hotness added
>> >> to Firefox? I realise there may be better examples which conflict less with
>> >> GNOME (=epi), but it would be pretty cool to point users at new stuff in
>> >> Firefox which GNOME 3 enables. Other examples: why not Wordpress, Noserub,
>> >> etc., and similar services? How is the integration with web stuff going to
>> >> work? Can we say cool things about the likes of Dropbox for GNOME 3? (I care
>> >> less for the non-free stuff personally, but it appears to be pretty
>> >> popular).
>> >>
>> >> Perhaps the timescales are too short here, but I think it would be
>> >> really cool if we could have others echo our messages, which in many ways
>> >> might mean talking to developers and telling them about what's happening in
>> >> GNOME world....
>> >
>> > Very good point. Perhaps our job is to align all the marketing messages
>> > that other projects will say about GNOME 3.0 and so it makes sense to reach
>> > out to developers.
>> >
>> > We are also best at talking to developers, so we could build on our
>> > strengths ...
>> >
>> > Stormy
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >>
>> >> Alex.
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