Re: Committing translations

[Ask Hjorth Larsen <asklarsen gmail com>]

Hello Alexandre

2014-09-12 0:15 GMT+02:00 Alexandre Franke <alexandre franke gmail com>:
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 12:02 AM, Ask Hjorth Larsen <asklarsen gmail com> wrote:
> > Hello translators and other wise people
>
> Hey Ask!
>
> > I recently became coordinator of the Danish translation team.  I am
> > now using damned lies to commit some translations.  It results in a
> > bit more clicking than strictly necessary.
>
> That's because you're doing it wrong. ;-)

Right :).  Well...

> > Basically we use a mailing list to facilitate the proofreading
> > process, and our translators eventually send the finished files to our
> > mailing list for committing.  What I do then is to go to damned lies,
> > remove their reservation, upload the new file, claim that it's ready
> > to be committed, and then I commit it.  This does not seem to fit 100%
> > the way the system was thought out.  Is it an acceptable way to do
> > things?  It is a lot of clicking to circumvent things that are
> > obviously meant to be there.
>
> Acceptable, sure. Best choice? I don't think so.
>
> While a mailing list can be an okay tool for the job, Damned lies
> really shines in that context and was designed for that workflow. It's
> way better as it allows you to track the exact state of modules. You
> can see what's been translated and not reviewed yet, what's reviewed
> and needs to be pushed to the repos, or what is being left out by
> translators. You can also use the commenting system to have a
> discussion and I think this is better than a thread on a mailing list
> as it keeps the relevant messages grouped together in one place on the
> module page.
>
> The fact that you can diff between the submitted files and the repos,
> or the automatic merging/updating of files when new strings appear in
> the module, are also killer features that you won't find in a mailing
> list centered workflow.
>
> I may be forgetting other advantages to using Damned lies, but I hope
> I've made my point with what I already said.
>
> > As an alternative I could use git directly, but I don't have a key
> > registered for that.
>
> Meh. You can do it if you decide to keep using the mailing list, but I
> don't think it's a good idea.
>
> > What do you generally do and think?
>
> Of course each team is free to work the way they want, but I strongly
> advise you to use Damned lies for the whole process. It will make your
> life way easier, believe me. :-)
>
> --
> Alexandre Franke

We translate a lot of different projects through the mailinglist, many
of which are not on damned lies.  I guess I can ask the others how
they like to do things.  But since we (ir)regularly get po-files from
translationproject.org, Launchpad, KDE, transifex and GNOME, it's a
bit "out of the way" for us to make exceptions for GNOME.  I do agree
with you that damned lies is very powerful though.  We'll see...

Thank you again.

Best regards
Ask