Re: icons for languages
- From: Gudmund Areskoug <fta algonet se>
- To: GNOME I18N List <gnome-i18n gnome org>
- Subject: Re: icons for languages
- Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 16:01:23 +0200
Hi Roozbeh,
Roozbeh Pournader wrote:
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 14:58 +0200, Gudmund Areskoug wrote:
How about a tiny map, indicating the region where that language is
traditionally spoken, with the language name in its own script(s)?
Region maps are also controversial, specially when the language has no
nation behind it. Kurdish is most famous example. You can't draw a non-
controversial map of Greater Kurdistan with going head to head with
Arabs, Turks, Azerbaijanis, and Persians.
I know, that's why I indicated "region", not "country". No matter what
one thinks of e. g. Greater Kurdistan, it's hard to dispute there's
currently a substantial group of people living and speaking Kurdish in a
given geographic location.
As I said in my reply to Tor, perhaps make "is traditionally spoken" "is
still traditionally spoken" or "is currently regularly spoken", or even
"is currently expected to be spoken".
If we mix history into it, we'll have a true quagmire...
You can't simply add all the countries that have native speakers either.
Country maps are also very controversial (Taiwan, Nagorno-Karabakh,
Kashmir, Transnistria, South Ossetia, etc. come to mind).
(BTW, the number of speakers is also a very controversial issue, but
that is in GNOME release notes anyway. Not that I have not objected a
few times.)
IMHO, managing to communicate might perhaps be more important than
managing not to step on *anybody*'s toes.
Well, we should see how important those anybodys are. If we don't want
to alienate them, we shouldn't.
Perhaps the "anybodys" should be challenged to come up with a better
idea for communicating a language denotation graphically?
Perhaps sensitive groups could have a "hide offense" feature coupled to
their own locale setting? ;)
Or make linking an icon - any icon the actual user wants - optional?
BR,
Gudmund
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