Re: "New" problems in Evolution (was Re: Translation problems)

[Christian Rose <menthos gnome org>]

mån 2003-10-20 klockan 01.01 skrev Danilo Segan:
> > And what's worse is that even a context system wouldn't really solve
> > the Evolution problem, because the fundamental problem is that there  
> > is only one "New" menu entry. I've thought about this and a slightly  
> > better solution would be to improve the menu contents to at least be
> > self-contained inside the "New" menu:
> 
> That is certainly much better, but as you imply, it's not perfect  
> either.

No, but I think it's the best and most simple thing that can be done
with the current situation and interface. Going away from the "one New
button/menu for creating many different objects" concept would require
some very substantial redesign work, I strongly suspect.


> > We should probably file a bug about this, as this is a fundamental
> > design problem in Evolution that affects every single language that
> > has genders.
> 
> Yes, I think this is the best thing to do. I'll also watch out for any  
> similar occurences, and report all of those too.
> 
> If it can be fixed with a different design, it should be fixed. Of  
> course, lets not put our hopes high for a quick solution, more so  
> because the problem has been lingering for a while. And since we heard  
> "rumours" (if stories by Evolution hackers should be called rumours :-)  
> of Evolution getting interface redesigned, this is one thing they  
> should keep in mind in that process.
> 
> If you report it in Bugzilla, please add me to CC. Thanks.

I've reported it in http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=49844. I
was unable to add you to CC; you at least seem to not use the same
Bugzilla account name at the Ximian Bugzilla.


> Btw, would you consider starting a one common bug for these issues just  
> like bug #116236 is for ngettext? I think many other similar issues are  
> going to pop out once we turn on our detectors for that, and one  
> reference point for general discussion is always nice to have ;-)

Having such a central bug for issues of this kind in GNOME Core is a
good idea, but off the top of my head I don't know many issues of this
kind in current GNOME platform modules. As I said, Evolution is the
prime example of this problem, but it's not part of GNOME yet.

That being said, if you find some issues of this kind please report them
in Bugzilla, and if the modules of those are part of the GNOME release,
we should probably have a central tracker bug for it too. Feel free to
add one when that happens, and feel free to cc: menthos@menthos.com on
any such bug reports too.


Christian