Re: Clearing up some things (plus flame retardant # 2)

[Tom Vogt <tom lemuria org>]

Dan Kaminsky <effugas@best.com> wrote:
> >excuse my stupidity - but if you consider an irc conference "the general
> >public", then what in hell is this list?
> 
> Not the general public.

I see.

you DO realize that people really interested in gnome-gui would probably
have subscribe to gnome-gui-list?

I don't mind irc conferences. I just mind suddenly calling a DEDICATED
mailing list an aside and a random conference the place for important
things. I really have a problem with that attitude.


> >do you expect more people on irc than on a mailing list? considering that
> >about half of them won't be participating because it's early monday morning
> >for them? (saturday night would have been a better time!)
> 
> Computer geeks stay up late :-)

some of us have a life. and not everyone is a student.


> Anyway, the time has to shift around--it's
> 3AM SOMEWHERE in the world at all times.

yes, but not 3am MONDAY MORNING. some of us have to work on mondays, you
know?


> Who are you to screw over the
> Japanese Contingent?  :-)

who are you to screw europe? let's face it, the majority of the people here
is in either europe or usa. before noon in the usa would have been afternoon
or evening in europe.

let's cut the crap. the timing is bad. let's hope it's better next time.



> Tom, you don't have a problem with the way Bowie's doing this.  You have a
> problem with the fact that Bowie himself is running this show, and you don't
> like his style--pun not intentional.

actually, you're wrong on me, but right on the point. some of the people
involved here indeed do not like bowie's style.


> I happen to agree with you, to some
> degree--it really is bad for a maintainer to flame, and we really need to
> see more progress out of him(but then, that's what Sunday is for, and I
> agree with his reasons for waiting)--but neither of you wants to put your
> incomplete versions of the style guide frameworks up for discussion.

whoops? I already posted a first draft of my version, so where does this
weird argument suddenly come from?

plus I'll post a second draft in a few hours.



> I say, give Bowie a chance.  Lets see what kind of work he comes up with on
> Sunday.

man, I DO give bowie a chance. two, three - any amount he needs. I just go
on and work in parallel. I don't try to drive him out, just provide an
alternative.


> However, once a unified frame work is decided on, I really hope everybody
> settles their differences--

that's what we're aiming at, ain't it? taking the best out of everything.


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