Re: [gnome-flashback] What to do about gnome-panel in 3.8 ?

[Dmitry Shachnev <mitya57 ubuntu com>]

On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Philipp Kaluza <floss ghostroute eu> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> (Quick and possibly partial answer, please excuse hectic frame of mind.)
>
> Also, sorry everybody, I CCed a ton of people this morning - is
> everybody aware of the gnome-flashback-list@ and subscribed there ?

I am subscribed :)

> Am 23.03.2013 11:24, schrieb Jonathan Carter (highvoltage):
> > Don't be too hard on yourself, I also found that discussion a bit
> > motivating at first but I think I'm now over it.
> Ok, will try. :)
>
> > It seems that the session should just be called "Flashback", I suppose
> > the mailing list and wiki page names should be changed as well.
>
> If that's what you decide, I'm OK with it. I just really didn't feel
> like listening to random people on bugzilla telling us we were doing
> everything wrong. If somebody decides to name their app "Getting Things
> GNOME" or similar, and hosts it in Gnome infrastructure, nobody
> complains about their use of the Gnome name. So as long as we feel we
> are part of the Gnome project, and contribute something worthwile to
> Gnome, I'd like to communicate that somehow. But as I said, I bow to
> your wisdom on the session name. :)
>
> > *nod*, for the 3.8 timeframe, this was the only thing I was hoping
> > for, just to get a release out.
> So that would imply shipping the session file ?
>
> > Even though it's no longer an official Gnome project, I think it's a
> > good idea to line up with the Gnome release numbers and release dates
> > and even as manpower can afford, follow the same QA processes.
> Full ACK.
>
>
> > > As gnome-panel is no longer part of official GNOME releases, we can
> > > build and upload new tarballs whenever we want without breaking any
> > > freezes (AFAIK).
> >
> > That is indeed the case. I suggest though that new features be
> > targetted for 3.10 since time is running out for the 3.8 timeframe.
>
> I concur.
>
> > > It will be very good to have Gnome Flashback mentioned in the release
> > > notes, of course.
> Who should we contact about this ? I guess they are being translated
> already ?...
>
> > > > [...]
> > *nod*, and thanks for all your work on that and the great status
> > update. Jeremy poked me earlier in the week to review the patch for
> > the namechange as well, but there were too much going on for me at the
> > same time at that point.
>
> Sure. But do you think it's worthwhile to land before monday ? I'm happy
> to try one more test setup with roughly a full jhbuild, but would
> appreciate pointers in the right direction (distri where my chances to
> run a self-built 3.8 gnome-session are better).
>
> Jeremy / Dmitry : is it possible to build & run everything on raring ?

Yes, the latest gnome-panel git snapshot builds on raring, though I
don't think we are going to upload it to the archive (it's not too
much different from 3.6 anyway). It runs (well, should run) with GNOME
3.6, I haven't yet tried it with GNOME 3.8 (from PPA).

> > > While we are at it, I think it'll be a good idea to start the “new
> > > life” of gnome-panel by incorporating Debian patches [1].
> > None of those seem very distro specific, so it seems that it makes
> > sense to do so.
>
> Totally agree, we also have a ton of patches in gnome bugzilla. But
> since we ran out of time, let's target them for master post-release
> (early 3.10 work) and backport simple stuff, agreed ? (The "calender
> shows wrong month" one apperently still is upstream (and in quantal).
>
>
> > I'd like to better keep track of things that break in the Fallback
> > session because of larger gnome changes. Both for documentation (like
> > release notes, errate, etc) and to help shape a roadmap for the
> > project. I suppose using a tag on bug reports would be more convenient
> > than a wiki page?
> Yeah, that sounds like a good idea, though let's do tagging and
> communicating here (gnome-flashback-list) for the moment, to keep
> everybody in the loop.

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Dmitry Shachnev