Re: [gnome-flashback] What to do about gnome-panel in 3.8 ?

[Philipp Kaluza <floss ghostroute eu>]

Hi All,

(Quick and possibly partial answer, please excuse hectic frame of mind.)

Also, sorry everybody, I CCed a ton of people this morning - is
everybody aware of the gnome-flashback-list@ and subscribed there ?


Am 23.03.2013 11:24, schrieb Jonathan Carter (highvoltage):
> Don't be too hard on yourself, I also found that discussion a bit
> motivating at first but I think I'm now over it.
Ok, will try. :)

> It seems that the session should just be called "Flashback", I suppose
> the mailing list and wiki page names should be changed as well.

If that's what you decide, I'm OK with it. I just really didn't feel
like listening to random people on bugzilla telling us we were doing
everything wrong. If somebody decides to name their app "Getting Things
GNOME" or similar, and hosts it in Gnome infrastructure, nobody
complains about their use of the Gnome name. So as long as we feel we
are part of the Gnome project, and contribute something worthwile to
Gnome, I'd like to communicate that somehow. But as I said, I bow to
your wisdom on the session name. :)

> *nod*, for the 3.8 timeframe, this was the only thing I was hoping
> for, just to get a release out. 
So that would imply shipping the session file ?

> Even though it's no longer an official Gnome project, I think it's a
> good idea to line up with the Gnome release numbers and release dates
> and even as manpower can afford, follow the same QA processes.
Full ACK.


> > As gnome-panel is no longer part of official GNOME releases, we can
> > build and upload new tarballs whenever we want without breaking any
> > freezes (AFAIK).
>
> That is indeed the case. I suggest though that new features be
> targetted for 3.10 since time is running out for the 3.8 timeframe.

I concur.

> > It will be very good to have Gnome Flashback mentioned in the release
> > notes, of course.
Who should we contact about this ? I guess they are being translated
already ?...

> > > [...]
> *nod*, and thanks for all your work on that and the great status
> update. Jeremy poked me earlier in the week to review the patch for
> the namechange as well, but there were too much going on for me at the
> same time at that point.

Sure. But do you think it's worthwhile to land before monday ? I'm happy
to try one more test setup with roughly a full jhbuild, but would
appreciate pointers in the right direction (distri where my chances to
run a self-built 3.8 gnome-session are better).

Jeremy / Dmitry : is it possible to build & run everything on raring ?


> > While we are at it, I think it'll be a good idea to start the “new
> > life” of gnome-panel by incorporating Debian patches [1].
> None of those seem very distro specific, so it seems that it makes
> sense to do so.

Totally agree, we also have a ton of patches in gnome bugzilla. But
since we ran out of time, let's target them for master post-release
(early 3.10 work) and backport simple stuff, agreed ? (The "calender
shows wrong month" one apperently still is upstream (and in quantal).


> I'd like to better keep track of things that break in the Fallback
> session because of larger gnome changes. Both for documentation (like
> release notes, errate, etc) and to help shape a roadmap for the
> project. I suppose using a tag on bug reports would be more convenient
> than a wiki page?
Yeah, that sounds like a good idea, though let's do tagging and
communicating here (gnome-flashback-list) for the moment, to keep
everybody in the loop.

Cheers,
  Philipp