Re: [gnome-db] [Fwd: Re: Communications in Projects...]



>>>>I've been a bit from gnome-db development, but, based on my future
>>>>I'll be keeping both eyes on it, very closely... So, if this honor
>>>>can be delegated to me, I'd be glad to help.
>>>Surely, I won't be chopping so many words in the report. ;)
>>>I meant 'been a bit far from'... and 'based on my future plans
>I'll'
>>I'm certainly not qualified to comment on development issues (way over
>>my head).  But I'm re-doing my "Data Access tools for Linux" presention
>>(the one linked to from the gnome-db doc page) and after I finish that I 
>>hope to actually try writting an app using gnome-db.  So I'll offer to help 
>>in any "documentation" tasks someone want's to throw my way.
>>I have been pounding the merits of gnome-db on other developement
>>lists I'm subscribed to.  I really wish there was PHP bindings as that is 
>>what I spend 4~6 hours a day writting.
>it would be very nice to have PHP bindings.
>>Theoretical question:
>>GDA is a CORBA object, yes?  So I don't really *need* Bonobo to access
>>a GDA provider,  I could do it directly via CORBA. (?)  Or does GDA need
>>Bonobo as it is activated by OAF?
>well, I think you'll need Bonobo bindings, although it might be
>possible to just use PHP-ORBit (ORBit bindings for Python) to access the 
>CORBA objects. The only problem on using only ORBit is, as you say, the
>activation, which will be more problematic than using OAF directly.
>But I think this is something that can be done perfectly. 

Here is what I understand -
1. gnome-session starts gnome-name-service.  
2. gnome-name-service puts its own IOR in a root X property so other
applications can find it
3. something (?) starts oafd
4. oafd registers itself with gnome-name-service
5. application looks up the components they want via gnome-name-service (using
the IOR in the X property).
6. application asks OAF to create component XYZ
7. application receives IOR of new component
8. subsequent application<->component chatter is via "pure" CORBA (?)

If this is correct I'd need to create some way for a gnome-name-server to get
started without an X session and in the security context of the httpd process.

Just wondering if I am near the mark.

>>If I have XML-RPC/SOAP/CORBA bridging middle-ware,  I should then be
>>able to access the GDA provider via XML-RPC?  (I'm currently using XML-RPC 
>>for other stuff).
>oops, that is a very nice idea. In theory, you should just have a
>gda-xmlrpc-srv component which listens to a SOAP/XML-RPC port and maps
>XML requests/responses to GDA CORBA calls.
>Or, another way would be to have this gda-xmlrpc-srv a client thing
>and have a SOAP/XML-RPC server respond to the calls (via HTTP+XML) from
>the gda-xmlrpc-srv.
>That would be a really nice thing to experiment on. Please keep us
>informed if you start working on something like this

I was thinking of it a the other way around.  I have an application (written in
PHP, but that doesn't really matter), that supports XML-RPC.  I have middle-ware
that supports XML-RPC, CORBA, etc... protocols,  either in a messaged format or
a "through" persistant connection.    So if I can get the CORBA object up and
running, and acquire it's IOR, I hopefully won't have to bother GDA at all as  
I'm hopeless as a C programmer. (Performance may stink in such an arrangement,
but this is just an experiment).

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