Re: Status for the release

["Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)" <zeeshanak gnome org>]

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
<zeeshanak gnome org> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Marc-André Lureau
> <marcandre lureau gmail com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Alexander Larsson <alexl redhat com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2012-08-28 at 14:43 +0200, Marc-André Lureau wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > There are some issues with the scaling of the VM display. The long term
>>>> > goal is that any boxes-installed vm should have the right guest drivers
>>>> > to allow guest resize in a way that the guest always have the same
>>>> > resolution as the boxes window. This doesn't seem to work quite
>>>> > right at the moment (at least with a rawhide guest). It resizes when i
>>>> > resize the window, but to a somewhat smaller resolution, and then
>>>> > scaling it up a bit, making things slightly fuzzy.
>>>> >
>>>> > Even worse is when the guest does *not* have the right drivers/guest to
>>>> > allow resizing. Then it essentially picks a random resolution (whatever
>>>> > the window size is when the vm boots or installs or something) and then
>>>> > we always stretch the display. This makes it impossible to resize the
>>>> > window to get 1:1 pixel size, or even just the right aspect ratio. IMHO
>>>> > we should *never* magnify the VM output, only ever scale it down if it
>>>> > doesn't fit the current window (as scrolling a VM is a total pain).
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> This is less important issue, imho. If we get Christophe Windows
>>>> driver installation, and update qxl & agent in f18 (which I think is
>>>> planned very soon), then this will be less of a concern, since it's
>>>> only an issue during installation or switching to console for example.
>>>
>>> Thats not true, I got no guest agent in Ubuntu or linux Mint, so it will
>>> happen. Furthermore, the bug above makes it fuzzy even in the
>>> guest-agent case
>>
>> We don't have support for those OS yet, so it's expected they are not
>> supported very well..
>>
>> With the right drivers (tested Debian and Fedora 17 and Windows XP &
>> 7), there is no fuzziness here.
>
> I agree with Alex that we shouldn't depend on the availability of
> drivers too much. If those drivers enable an enhanced user experience,
> thats awesome but the user experience with unknown/unsupported OS
> shouldn't be crappy.

Besides, even with patches in bug#679752, the availability of windows
drivers is very much left out to distributions at the moment. I'm
willing to bet most distros will miss that out and not make efforts to
make those drivers available to their users.

-- 
Regards,

Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
FSF member#5124