Re: apps no longer accessible using gnome and orca



Well, I had updated the at-spi2 in May and that is where it was, so I
updated to the latest git, but no joy -- maybe I will downgrade to the
latest stable version and see if that makes any  difference.  As I
said in another thread, I can't even get into the orca preferences.

On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 21:50:34 -0400,
Janina Sajka wrote:

John:

I just deleted another post on this topic from you, and then I relized I
had a thought to share ...

If I remember what you wrote correctly, apps are launching, but Orca
doesn't appear to be getting the news. That really sounds like an issue
with the AT-SPI bridge. Was that recently updated?

Also, could you perhaps use lsof to chase down this problem?

John Covici writes:
I have such a thing, but its just a directory, but maybe I could sort
on the time -- I will check.

On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 19:45:42 -0400,
Janina Sajka wrote:

Do you have a log of what was updated in cronological order? Working
backwards might be one way to go.


John Covici writes:
Down version of what?  Gnome has many items, I can't just say go to
earlier version of gnome.  Anyone have any ideas?

On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 15:24:49 -0400,
Janina Sajka wrote:

e.g. downversion

John Covici writes:
Unrolling what exactly?  If its not window manager what might it be?

On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 14:06:56 -0400,
Janina Sajka wrote:

I understand the attraction of gentoo. Why not get a custom build, with
just the apps you want, and no more? Sounds cool--until important things
break, at which point you're left with both pieces.

I'm sorry, I have no gentoo specific understanding to offer. I can
suggest some of the ordinary approaches available on other distros, such
as unrolling to earlier versions until things again work. Yes, that can
be very tedious, but isn't that part of the gentoo bargain?

Maybe there are other gentoo users here who can validate your
experience, or indicate their current success. But, gentoo users are so
few and far between because of the high upfront cost of running gentoo.

I know I'm being a bummer, John. But, I feel I've known you via these
lists for long enough, that I'm willing to endure your ire. So, what is
gentoo's recommended strategy for such situations? After all, breakage
is surely inevitable in any human enterprise, including Linux.

Janina

John Covici writes:
Hi.  I am using the gentoo distribution and its gnome overlay and for
the last period (maybe a month or two) I find that no apps are
accessible using the orca screen reader.  The apps actually run as
verified with eyeballs, but orca does not see them.  I am running the
latest accessibility framework from git as of about 4 days ago.
Apparently, orca is not receiving the window activate event and it was
suggested to me that it might be the window manager.  I am using
mutter 3.20.3, downgraded to 3.20.2, but no joy.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

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         covici ccs covici com

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Janina Sajka, Phone:  +1.443.300.2200
                      sip:janina asterisk rednote net
              Email:  janina rednote net

Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:     http://a11y.org

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures      http://www.w3.org/wai/apa


-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

         John Covici
         covici ccs covici com

-- 

Janina Sajka,     Phone:  +1.443.300.2200
                  sip:janina asterisk rednote net
          Email:  janina rednote net

Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures  http://www.w3.org/wai/apa


-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

         John Covici
         covici ccs covici com

-- 

Janina Sajka, Phone:  +1.443.300.2200
                      sip:janina asterisk rednote net
              Email:  janina rednote net

Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:     http://a11y.org

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures      http://www.w3.org/wai/apa


-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

         John Covici
         covici ccs covici com


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