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Re: New to List

Hi all.

I'm a bit confused because I swear we updated the wiki to reflect that
we stopped having weekly meetings in favor of using the mailing list for
as-needed coordination and discussion. I'll make that change now. For
reference:
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-accessibility-list/2015-April/msg00009.html

--joanie

On 05/29/2015 12:34 PM, William Best wrote:

Well I suppose that I will try to join their next meeting.  Is anyone
else interested in doing so?

Will

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:22 PM Jeremy Whiting <jpwhiting kde org
<mailto:jpwhiting kde org>> wrote:

    Seems to be here: https://wiki.gnome.org/Accessibility/

    On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:19 AM, William Best
    <standard7452 gmail com <mailto:standard7452 gmail com>> wrote:
    > Brian,
    >
    > Where is the site for the GNOME Accessibility Team located?
    >
    > Thanks!
    > Will
    >
    >
    >
    > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:15 PM William Best
    <standard7452 gmail com <mailto:standard7452 gmail com>>
    > wrote:
    >>
    >> All,
    >>
    >> I am familiar with GOK, and actually tracked down the original
    authors of
    >> that software.  I believe they were from the University of
    Toronto, and were
    >> no longer interested in doing that.  I am not sure about
    caribou.  I think a
    >> nice solution would be to integrate switch/pointer access in
    conjunction
    >> with speech recognition.
    >>
    >> This is a software application that some of the people I work
    with use:
    >> http://goo.gl/43Mev6
    >>
    >> It is nearly $1000 USD though.
    >>
    >> I think there has to be someone out there with the skills to create
    >> something like this as an open source project.  That is what I
    would like to
    >> help accomplish.
    >>
    >> Thanks!
    >> Will
    >>
    >> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:02 PM Cesar Mauri <cesar crea-si com
    <mailto:cesar crea-si com>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>> Will,
    >>>
    >>> Not sure, not much into Gnome specific development, but in the past
    >>> there were efforts devoted to a project called GOK [1]. It was a
    >>> on-screen keyboard which supported scanning access. It seems
    that now it
    >>> has been replaced by Caribou [2]. Not sure about its current
    status. The
    >>> folks involved in this project might provide you more insight.
    >>>
    >>> [1]
    >>>
    >>>
    https://developer.gnome.org/accessibility-devel-guide/stable/idp5239184.html
    >>> [2]
    >>>
    >>>
    https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Projects/Caribou?action=show&redirect=Caribou
    >>>
    >>> Regards,
    >>>
    >>> César
    >>>
    >>> El 29/05/2015 a las 17:37, William Best escribió:
    >>> > Cesar,
    >>> >
    >>> > I am going to try out your Viacam project with one of my
    individuals
    >>> > at the beginning of next week.
    >>> >
    >>> > I would like to get a project going that would bring switch
    access to
    >>> > Gnome via a programmable on-screen keyboard.
    >>> >
    >>> > How can something like this get started?
    >>> >
    >>> > Thanks!
    >>> > Will
    >>> >
    >>> > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 11:21 AM Cesar Mauri
    <cesar crea-si com <mailto:cesar crea-si com>
    >>> > <mailto:cesar crea-si com <mailto:cesar crea-si com>>> wrote:
    >>> >
    >>> >     Welcome William,
    >>> >
    >>> >     I've been working with people with cerebral palsy for more
    than ten
    >>> >     years and I maintain the Enable Viacam [1] open source
    project.
    >>> >     Here in
    >>> >     Spain I'm also involved in this project [2] (web page in
    Spanish,
    >>> >     sorry)
    >>> >     in which we try to improve the social participation of
    people with
    >>> >     cerebral palsy through the use of technology.
    >>> >
    >>> >     In my view, there is still a lot to be done and, in general,
    >>> >     accessibility is always lagging behind the pace of innovation,
    >>> >     even more
    >>> >     in the FOSS arena. Unfortunately, most "state of the art"
    assistive
    >>> >     technology is privative and, often, scandalously
    expensive, as you
    >>> >     already know.
    >>> >
    >>> >     As for speech recognition, we also had little success with
    people
    >>> > with
    >>> >     cerebral palsy due to their speech disorders (dysarthria).
    In most
    >>> >     cases
    >>> >     we have to rely on other input methods such as alternative
    >>> > keyboards,
    >>> >     mouses, joysticks or even switches and scanning
    techniques. Up to
    >>> > our
    >>> >     knowledge, best solutions for specialised scanning access
    and AAC
    >>> > are
    >>> >     only available for Windows and, in general, privative. One
    >>> >     exception is
    >>> >     SAW (Special Access to Windows) [3], very powerful but
    only for
    >>> >     Windows
    >>> >     and hard to use for most people. It would great if we had
    >>> >     something like
    >>> >     SAW but easy to use and available for FOSS environments.
    And this
    >>> > is
    >>> >     just an example. Also open to collaborate.
    >>> >
    >>> >     [1] http://viacam.org
    >>> >     [2] http://aspacenet.aspace.org/
    >>> >     [3] https://sourceforge.net/projects/sawat/
    >>> >
    >>> >     Regards,
    >>> >
    >>> >     César
    >>> >
    >>> >
    >>> >     El 29/05/2015 a las 15:17, William Best escribió:
    >>> >     > Eric,
    >>> >     >
    >>> >     > I would love to help you with your project where I can. My
    >>> > strengths
    >>> >     > are not in writing code per se, but I understand the
    issues you
    >>> >     face.
    >>> >     > I work with 120 individuals with all forms of disabilities.
    >>> >     >
    >>> >     > How successful have you been with using voice
    recognition using
    >>> >     > Windows?  I have had limited success with voice recognition
    >>> >     technology
    >>> >     > in my work.  This is mostly due to the people who have
    physical
    >>> >     > disabilities have cerebral palsy which also presents speech
    >>> > problems
    >>> >     > in these cases.
    >>> >     >
    >>> >     > Access is difficult for folks with disabilities, and my
    goal is
    >>> > to
    >>> >     > collaborate with others to create open source versions
    of some
    >>> > very
    >>> >     > expensive propriety software systems.
    >>> >     >
    >>> >     > Could you send a video of you using your setup so I can
    >>> >     visualize it?
    >>> >     >
    >>> >     > Thanks!
    >>> >     > Will
    >>> >     >
    >>> >     > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 9:06 AM Eric Johansson
    <esj eggo org <mailto:esj eggo org>
    >>> >     <mailto:esj eggo org <mailto:esj eggo org>>
    >>> >     > <mailto:esj eggo org <mailto:esj eggo org>
    <mailto:esj eggo org <mailto:esj eggo org>>>> wrote:
    >>> >     >
    >>> >     >     Welcome to the list. I joined because I am disabled and
    >>> >     >     unfortunately the accessibility models currently
    available
    >>> >     do not
    >>> >     >     help me in the slightest. I was hoping to find the
    time to
    >>> > serve
    >>> >     >     my own needs which I know would serve the needs of other
    >>> > people
    >>> >     >     like myself with upper extremities disabilities and
    dependent
    >>> > on
    >>> >     >     speech recognition.
    >>> >     >
    >>> >     >     Best laid plans etc cetera. :-)
    >>> >     >
    >>> >     >     Here's where I'm at and I could use some help.
    >>> >     >
    >>> >     >     the only really useful speech recognition
    environment right
    >>> >     now is
    >>> >     >     nuances naturally speaking followed closely by
    Microsoft.
    >>> >     >     obviously the main problem is they only run on Windows.
    >>> >     >
    >>> >     >     I have set up a prototype of a working environment
    where I
    >>> > run
    >>> >     >     Windows as a virtual machine dedicated solely to speech
    >>> >     >     recognition. Then I have a bridge which transfers
    key codes
    >>> > or
    >>> >     >     other types of speech events over to Linux from windows.
    >>> > Right
    >>> >     >     now, I've been somewhat successful with injecting speech
    >>> >     generated
    >>> >     >     characters into Linux applications. I'm working on
    the next
    >>> >     >     generation now and running into problems with
    uinput.  as
    >>> >     soon as
    >>> >     >     i fix those problems, using the community developed
    macro
    >>> >     >     environment, we will have a reasonably useful speech
    >>> > recognition
    >>> >     >     system driving Linux.
    >>> >     >
    >>> >     >     What I mean by reasonably useful is that I can drive
    emacs,
    >>> >     write
    >>> >     >     prose and a bit of code. With any luck, that would
    only be a
    >>> >     >     stone's throw away from being able to execute code
    on the
    >>> > Linux
    >>> >     >     side as a result of interpreting a grammar on the
    Windows
    >>> > side.
    >>> >     >     The remote execution capability would put us on a
    parity with
    >>> >     >     what's available on Windows.
    >>> >     >
    >>> >     >     Anyway, if you'd like to help, I would welcome
    assistance.
    >>> >     >
    >>> >     >
    >>> >     >
    >>> >     >     On May 29, 2015 8:29 AM, William Best
    >>> >     <standard7452 gmail com <mailto:standard7452 gmail com>
    <mailto:standard7452 gmail com <mailto:standard7452 gmail com>>
    >>> >     >     <mailto:standard7452 gmail com
    <mailto:standard7452 gmail com>
    >>> >     <mailto:standard7452 gmail com
    <mailto:standard7452 gmail com>>>> wrote:
    >>> >     >     >
    >>> >     >     > Hello,
    >>> >     >     >
    >>> >     >     > My name is William Best.  I am not sure if this is the
    >>> > right
    >>> >     >     group to join
    >>> >     >     > for how I would like to contribute.
    >>> >     >     >
    >>> >     >     > My passion/career involves helping people with
    >>> > developmental
    >>> >     >     disabilities
    >>> >     >     > get better access to technology.  Over the past
    year or so,
    >>> > I
    >>> >     >     have been
    >>> >     >     > experimenting with different Linux distributions
    to come
    >>> >     up with a
    >>> >     >     > low-cost, stable, and robust solution for the disabled
    >>> >     people I
    >>> >     >     work with.
    >>> >     >     >
    >>> >     >     > My goal is to help get features/apps that would help
    >>> > disabled
    >>> >     >     people access
    >>> >     >     > technology in a better way.
    >>> >     >     >
    >>> >     >     > Let me know if I am in the right group for this.
    >>> >     >     >
    >>> >     >     > Thanks!
    >>> >     >
    >>> >     >
    >>> >     >
    >>> >     > _______________________________________________
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    >>> >     <mailto:gnome-accessibility-list gnome org
    <mailto:gnome-accessibility-list gnome org>>
    >>> >     >
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