Re: Closed-Captioning Support

[JGJones <mailinglist gwallgofi com>]

Just a thought...

Obviously if you're using Totem, and have a srt file or similar, it shows up perfectly well.

As for CC vs subtitles, I find it complex myself - as being in UK, we don't have CC on TV's or DVD's etc (for example you'll only find CC in use on Region 1 DVD's mostly) but mostly rest of world doesn't as far as I have found out.

(I also don't like CC myself but prefer subtitles as they're easier to modify to suit my liking)

Interestingly enough, this subject - while not related to Gnome, is a sore thumb for many deaf people regarding BBC's iPlayer - by using WMV videos, but to date I've not managed to get subtitles working (it's broken - it was broken, then got fixed...then it's broken again) but that's Windows XP. On Gnome, I'm limited to Flash streaming, where there are *no* subtitles at all. (I'm deaf myself btw, there's a thread or two about it on BBC's See Hear forums, See Hear is a TV show for the deaf - http://bbc.co.uk/seehear )

But anyway, sorry about that waffling - when talking about CC for videos - what exactly are you looking for? Getting CC off videos as streamed via satelite/cable or something like that or generic video files (MPEG or something?) with inbuilt CC.

I wanted to clarify what kind of videos you was talking about, as I've mentioned - CC isn't used in many countries outside of USA (UK being one of them - we get it by Teletext for analogue channels and via MythTV I seem to get subtitles just fine with digital Freeview - although am aware it's not Gstreamer that MythTV is using).

Cheers

Joseph Gwynne-Jones MBCS

On Mon, 2008-01-07 at 18:15 -0600, Bryen wrote:
> Peter,
>
> Thanks.  You did lead me on some interesting paths and I found caption
> support available for RealPlayer and HelixPlayer.  However, these
> players do not support DVD at this time.  
>
> >From what I've read on the Internet, gstreamer and xine both provide CC
> support.  But, I cannot find out how to enable it whether through an
> option, config file or a plugin.  No answers yet from either of those
> mailing lists.
>
> If I find more concrete answers, I'll let everyone know here.
>
> Thanks again,
> Bryen
>
> On Mon, 2008-01-07 at 13:26 -0800, Peter Korn wrote:
> > Hi Bryen,
> > 
> > The media formats need to support captioning, and then the players must 
> > be able to play it.  RealMedia and QuickTime and WindowsMedia all 
> > support caption encoding (in one fashion or another), and HelixCode will 
> > render them.  I don't know about other players.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Peter Korn
> > Accessibility Architect,
> > Sun Microsystems, Inc.
> > 
> > > Thanks Willie,
> > >
> > > Unfortunately that refers to subtitles which is an entirely different
> > > feature from Closed-Captioning.    Need to be able to enable closed
> > > captioning when watching tv programs or DVD that has CC but not
> > > subtitling.   Besides, I hate subtitles, they are a difficult to read
> > > poor implementation of captioning.  :-)
> > >
> > > Besides, television programs aren't subtitled.
> > >
> > > But thanks...  still working hard on finding the answer to this.
> > > Gstreamer claims to support it but won't answer me on their mailing
> > > list.  oh well...
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 2008-01-07 at 15:59 -0500, Willie Walker wrote:
> > >   
> > >> Hi Bryen:
> > >>
> > >> I saw this come through the gnome-announce list recently:
> > >>
> > >> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-announce-list/2007-December/msg00028.html
> > >>
> > >> "Gnome Subtitles is a subtitle editor for the GNOME desktop. It supports 
> > >> the most common text-based subtitle formats and allows for subtitle 
> > >> editing, conversion and synchronization.
> > >>
> > >> * About: http://gnome-subtitles.sf.net/about
> > >> ..."
> > >>
> > >> Will
> > >>
> > >> Bryen wrote:
> > >>     
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> I've been hunting high and low for answers to Closed-Captioning support
> > >>> on GNOME.  Can anyone point me in the right direction?
> > >>>
> > >>> I have found that supposedly gstreamer and xine have built in
> > >>> closed-captioning (CC) but I have yet to see where to enable it.
> > >>>
> > >>> Many thanks!
> > >>>
> > >>>       
> >