Re: how to use gnopernicus?



Hi,
I can testify that Mandriva formally Mandrake versions 2005 and 2006
work quite well with gnopernicus.
However, there are some challenges to over come. I haven't found an
accessible sightless install for mandrake or Mandriva produc products,
and the os doesn't install gnopernicus by default.
I had to mamanually find the gnopernicus rpms and dependancies I wanted
and needed and install manually. Tricky for a new user but fine if you
know exactly what Mandrake doesn't install and knows what order to
install in.

On Sat, 2005-10-01 at 22:00 -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> I don't recommend fedora core 4 for this level of user.  The reason is, 
> the way speakup screen reader which does the reading before gnopernicus 
> starts up still has to be installed.  Fedora core 3 the speakup-enabled 
> version from the isos was the only distribution of Linux I've been at all 
> successful in getting gnopernicus to say anything and that was only as a 
> result of the help provided by Don Raikes and his cfg-gnome script.  For 
> whatever reason I couldn't get slackware or debian talking and can't 
> download the talking version of ubuntu to try it out because being on a 
> flakey dsl dynamic ip connection with verizon.net isn't conducive to 
> running bittorrent even if I knew how to run bittorrent which I right now 
> don't.  The way you get speakup on fedora core 4 was explained by janina 
> sagka over on the speakup list and is definitely not for even relatively 
> new linux users.  Where in solaris 10 can you read how to get solaris 10 
> to do a talking installation and how to keep it talking after 
> installation?  I haven't downloaded those isos yet (verizon.net) again 
> yet.  Also are those available on an rsync server, if I do downloads I 
> like to get full integrity versions of isos the first time thanks very 
> much.
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 16 Sep 2005, Peter Korn wrote:
> 
> > Greetings Chiara,
> >
> > sunchiaretta yahoo it wrote:
> >>  I already posted a similar question but I didn't understand the answer and
> >>  I couldn't get my goal.
> >>  I would like you to give me the instructions to make gnopernicus read an
> >>  internet page. That's all. Could you do this?
> >>  Thank you.
> >>  Chiara Frassino
> >
> > To browse a web page with Gnopernicus and a web browser, do the following:
> >
> >  1. Get a UNIX or GNU/Linux distro with the GNOME desktop and Gnopernicus
> >     on it.  Solaris 10 from Sun is a fine choice, but then I'm biased.
> >     There
> >     are numerous other alternatives.  Fedora Core 4 seems to be a popular
> >     one.
> >
> >  2. Get either a recent build of Mozilla or Firefox, or for best results as
> >     of today, get the Sun accessibility branch of Mozilla 1.7.  This can be
> >     found at: 
> > ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mozilla/accessibility/sun-mozilla-1.7/04-26-2005/
> >     (for your pleasure we include both sources and a binary for Fedora).
> >     Note: if you have Solaris 10, you already have a pretty recent Sun
> >     build of Mozilla 1.7
> >
> >  3. Launch Gnopernicus, or configure your desktop session to launch it
> >     automatically.  Of course, ensure that GNOME desktop accessibility is
> >     also turned on.
> >
> >  4. Launch Mozilla.  In Solaris 10 this is Ctrl-Esc, down-arrow 3 times,
> >  then
> >     <CR> or spacebar.
> >
> >  5. Press the F7 key to turn on caret navigation in a web page.  You should
> >     only need to do this once; your caret navigation setting will be
> >     preserved across session.
> >
> >  6. Enter the URL of the page you want to go to.  As focus is intially
> >     in the content area, Ctrl-Tab will bring you to the URL bar to do this.
> >     Alternately in the File menu is "Open Web Location...".  Alt-F, L
> >     or Ctrl-Shift-L will bring up the URL-entry dialog box into which
> >     you can enter your URL.  In either case, after typing in the URL,
> >     Press <CR>.  Gnopernicus feedback when you go to the URL bar should
> >     be "Toolbar, single-line text, http://<your home page URL>".  In the
> >     case of the "Open Web Location" dialog, the Gnopernicus speech feedback
> >     should be: "Enter the Web location URL or specify the local file you
> >     would
> >     like to open.  Single line text."
> >
> >  7. Focus will now be in the content region (if you used the URL bar),
> >     or on the URL bar (if you used the dialog box; wierd huh?).  If the
> >     later, press Tab to get to the content region.  In either case, the
> >     web page title will become the title bar of the Mozilla browser window
> >     and Gnopernicus will read it to you.  Get to the content region if
> >     you aren't already there (with Tab), and then you can either read the
> >     web page by using the standard document arrow keys (left/right arrow
> >     to read by character, Ctrl-left/right arrow to read by word, up-down
> >     arrow to read by line, Home/End to get to the start/end of a line,
> >     and Ctrl-Home/End to get to the start/end of the web page.  You can
> >     also use the Tab key within the web page to jump through the links.
> >     More detailed information about the navigation schemes you can use is
> >     at the Mozilla keyboard content navigation proposal document, at:
> >     http://www.mozilla.org/access/keyboard/proposal
> >     Unfortunately the Gnopernicus flat-review feature doesn't work with
> >     Mozilla due to a Mozilla bug that we know about and hope to address
> >     in the not-too-distant future (though if anyone else would like to
> >     work on it, please be our guest!  This is open source after all.  Why
> >     should Sun have all the fun?  See the bugzilla bug:
> >     https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=257424).
> >
> >
> > I hope this helps get you started browsing the web.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Peter Korn
> > Sun Accessibility team
> >
> >
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