Re: how to use gnopernicus?
- From: Thomas Ward <tward1978 earthlink net>
- To: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel shellworld net>
- Cc: sunchiaretta yahoo it, gnome-accessibility-list gnome org, Peter Korn <Peter Korn Sun COM>
- Subject: Re: how to use gnopernicus?
- Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 23:02:58 -0400
Hi,
I can testify that Mandriva formally Mandrake versions 2005 and 2006
work quite well with gnopernicus.
However, there are some challenges to over come. I haven't found an
accessible sightless install for mandrake or Mandriva produc products,
and the os doesn't install gnopernicus by default.
I had to mamanually find the gnopernicus rpms and dependancies I wanted
and needed and install manually. Tricky for a new user but fine if you
know exactly what Mandrake doesn't install and knows what order to
install in.
On Sat, 2005-10-01 at 22:00 -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> I don't recommend fedora core 4 for this level of user. The reason is,
> the way speakup screen reader which does the reading before gnopernicus
> starts up still has to be installed. Fedora core 3 the speakup-enabled
> version from the isos was the only distribution of Linux I've been at all
> successful in getting gnopernicus to say anything and that was only as a
> result of the help provided by Don Raikes and his cfg-gnome script. For
> whatever reason I couldn't get slackware or debian talking and can't
> download the talking version of ubuntu to try it out because being on a
> flakey dsl dynamic ip connection with verizon.net isn't conducive to
> running bittorrent even if I knew how to run bittorrent which I right now
> don't. The way you get speakup on fedora core 4 was explained by janina
> sagka over on the speakup list and is definitely not for even relatively
> new linux users. Where in solaris 10 can you read how to get solaris 10
> to do a talking installation and how to keep it talking after
> installation? I haven't downloaded those isos yet (verizon.net) again
> yet. Also are those available on an rsync server, if I do downloads I
> like to get full integrity versions of isos the first time thanks very
> much.
>
>
>
> On Fri, 16 Sep 2005, Peter Korn wrote:
>
> > Greetings Chiara,
> >
> > sunchiaretta yahoo it wrote:
> >> I already posted a similar question but I didn't understand the answer and
> >> I couldn't get my goal.
> >> I would like you to give me the instructions to make gnopernicus read an
> >> internet page. That's all. Could you do this?
> >> Thank you.
> >> Chiara Frassino
> >
> > To browse a web page with Gnopernicus and a web browser, do the following:
> >
> > 1. Get a UNIX or GNU/Linux distro with the GNOME desktop and Gnopernicus
> > on it. Solaris 10 from Sun is a fine choice, but then I'm biased.
> > There
> > are numerous other alternatives. Fedora Core 4 seems to be a popular
> > one.
> >
> > 2. Get either a recent build of Mozilla or Firefox, or for best results as
> > of today, get the Sun accessibility branch of Mozilla 1.7. This can be
> > found at:
> > ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mozilla/accessibility/sun-mozilla-1.7/04-26-2005/
> > (for your pleasure we include both sources and a binary for Fedora).
> > Note: if you have Solaris 10, you already have a pretty recent Sun
> > build of Mozilla 1.7
> >
> > 3. Launch Gnopernicus, or configure your desktop session to launch it
> > automatically. Of course, ensure that GNOME desktop accessibility is
> > also turned on.
> >
> > 4. Launch Mozilla. In Solaris 10 this is Ctrl-Esc, down-arrow 3 times,
> > then
> > <CR> or spacebar.
> >
> > 5. Press the F7 key to turn on caret navigation in a web page. You should
> > only need to do this once; your caret navigation setting will be
> > preserved across session.
> >
> > 6. Enter the URL of the page you want to go to. As focus is intially
> > in the content area, Ctrl-Tab will bring you to the URL bar to do this.
> > Alternately in the File menu is "Open Web Location...". Alt-F, L
> > or Ctrl-Shift-L will bring up the URL-entry dialog box into which
> > you can enter your URL. In either case, after typing in the URL,
> > Press <CR>. Gnopernicus feedback when you go to the URL bar should
> > be "Toolbar, single-line text, http://<your home page URL>". In the
> > case of the "Open Web Location" dialog, the Gnopernicus speech feedback
> > should be: "Enter the Web location URL or specify the local file you
> > would
> > like to open. Single line text."
> >
> > 7. Focus will now be in the content region (if you used the URL bar),
> > or on the URL bar (if you used the dialog box; wierd huh?). If the
> > later, press Tab to get to the content region. In either case, the
> > web page title will become the title bar of the Mozilla browser window
> > and Gnopernicus will read it to you. Get to the content region if
> > you aren't already there (with Tab), and then you can either read the
> > web page by using the standard document arrow keys (left/right arrow
> > to read by character, Ctrl-left/right arrow to read by word, up-down
> > arrow to read by line, Home/End to get to the start/end of a line,
> > and Ctrl-Home/End to get to the start/end of the web page. You can
> > also use the Tab key within the web page to jump through the links.
> > More detailed information about the navigation schemes you can use is
> > at the Mozilla keyboard content navigation proposal document, at:
> > http://www.mozilla.org/access/keyboard/proposal
> > Unfortunately the Gnopernicus flat-review feature doesn't work with
> > Mozilla due to a Mozilla bug that we know about and hope to address
> > in the not-too-distant future (though if anyone else would like to
> > work on it, please be our guest! This is open source after all. Why
> > should Sun have all the fun? See the bugzilla bug:
> > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=257424).
> >
> >
> > I hope this helps get you started browsing the web.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Peter Korn
> > Sun Accessibility team
> >
> >
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> >
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