Re: Help, New Gnopernicus User!

["Tom and Esther Ward" <tward1978 earthlink net>]

Hi, Peter.
Hmmm... I've been toying with gnopernicus and gnome access almost since the
beginning and knew nothing about f7 in any other application other than
Mozilla.
It seams documentation is the projects biggest problem right now. Is there
anyway either a tester or the Gnome  docs people can step up documentation
for Gnome and Gnopernicus?
I was originally willing to write documentation on the various
Gnome access technologies, but got brushed off by the Gnome doc people.As it
turns out the Gnome doc project is less than satisfactory in covering the
access technologies for Gnome.
I think what is really required for new users is a step by step guide to get
new users familiar with Gnome, and then a walk through on using Gnopernicus
with flagship apps like Mozilla, gedit, Openoffice, and others.
I've helped a couple of people get Gnopernicus up and running locally and
the number one request from them was some kind of tootorial like that
shipped with Jaws. One that walks them from the simplest steps of navigation
to more complex tasks like browsing the web. Gnomes documentation is far
from that quality right now.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Korn" <Peter Korn Sun COM>
To: "Kenny Hitt" <kenny hittsjunk net>
Cc: <gnome-accessibility-list gnome org>
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: Help, New Gnopernicus User!


> Hi Kelly, Beth, all,
>
> There is a (poorly documented) mechanism in gnome-help, mozilla,
evolution,
> and likely a number of future applications to turn on "caret browsing"
mode
> for navigating through the text-content regions of otherwise uneditable
text:
> press F7.
>
> Try this with gnome-help.  Once you've done this, you get a caret and can
> traverse through the content region and get Gnopernicus speech feedback so
as
> to read the document(s).  In addition, there is flat-review mode in
> Gnopernicus, though it will read more than just text content.
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Peter Korn
> Sun Accessibility team
>
>
> Kenny Hitt wrote:
> > Hi.  Gnome accessibility is improving, but I wouldn't try using it as my
> > only access to my Linux boxes.
> > I have the same problem as you with the help system.  Lack of access to
> > help in Gnome seems to be a "feature".  One way to get a
> > list of Gnopernicus keys is to goto preferences and choose keyboard
mapping.
> > You can read through the list with the down arrow.
> > The way to get to a pannel is to use control-alt-tab.  That will cycle
> > from pannels to the desktop.
> > You might want to read the user documentation for Gnome in a console to
> > find out about other useful shortcuts.  If you don't have console
access,
> > Iexplorer should let you read the web pages.
> > Most of the shortcuts you used in Windows will do similar things
> > in Gnome.  If you goto desktop preferences and choose keyboard
shortcuts,
> > you can see what shortcuts are actually available on your system.
> > Gnopernicus should read this dialog without you needing to use any
review keys.
> > If my answers aren't clear, just ask and I'll try to explain better.
> > I've been playing with Gnome for almost 2 years, so I'm probably missing
> > the simple things.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >           Kenny
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 05:20:51AM -0700, Beth Hatch wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>    Hello all,
> >>
> >>After being a Windows user for the last 10 years, I've finally got a
Linux
> >>system here delivered to me today.  I am a student studying computer
> >>networking where we use Linux at school, this is my home system which
has a
> >>dual boot of Debian Ubantu and Redhat Enterprise Linux which I had
custom
> >>built for me.
> >>
> >>    I've spent the last several hours working with Gnopernicus, learning
> >>keyboard commands, etc.  I am finding that I can configure voices and
> >>preferences just fine, but when I try to read any help for Gnopernicus,
or
> >>if I attempt to find or use anything like the Gnome panels, or
applications
> >>of any kind, I have having very little success.  I have tried to
research
> >>whatever is happening to no avail on several unix and Linux pages that
use
> >>Gnopernicus, Sun, Debian, Redhat, among others.
> >>
> >>    I am using Gnopernicus version 09.19 and Festival which was just
> >>installed on my system.  Now I hear there is a newer Gnopernicus build,
> >>010.0 I believe......
> >>
> >>    If someone could point this former Windows user in the right
direction,
> >>e.g. how do I get the Gnome panels and applications to speak properly,
it
> >>would be most appreciated.
> >>
> >>    If this type of newbie message clutters up the list, again, my
> >>apologies, please feel free to write to me privately at:
> >>bhatch200 comcast net 
> >>
> >>Thanks in advance for your assistance!!!
> >>
> >>Beth Hatch
> >
> >
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