Re: [g-a-devel] Trying to understand STATE_SENSITIVE

[Willie Walker <William Walker Sun COM>]

Here's the Javadoc from AccessibleState in the Swing toolkit:

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/javax/accessibility/AccessibleState.html#ENABLED

If I recall correctly from when I helped define/write the Java
Accessibility API almost 10 years ago(!), it corresponds directly to the
value set here:

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/java/awt/Component.html#setEnabled(boolean)

When I look at the Java access bridge for GNOME, however, I see that
perhaps my interpretation of SENSITIVE and ENABLED seems to be different
from the interpretation made by the author of the bridge:

http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/java-access-bridge/trunk/bridge/org/GNOME/Accessibility/StateTypeAdapter.java?content-type=text%2Fplain

In any case, it looks like the Java API's use 'enabled' as their word.
The word 'sensitive' seems to be a GTK-ism, and I'm guessing the whole
enabled/sensitive state thing was invented with the AT-SPI.  At this
point in time, however, I'm not sure of the value in upsetting the apple
cart -- the best thing would be to make the docs better.

Will

On Fri, 2007-01-19 at 16:06 +0000, Bill Haneman wrote:
> David Bolter wrote:
> > sigh... make that "shouldn't have"...  ever had one of those days?
> >
> > D
> >
> >   
> Yes :-)
> 
> Folks, the truth is I just don't know/remember at the moment, without 
> digging deep into the toolkits.  I'm on leave today and this weekend, so 
> can't be all that useful until Monday.  I'll try to figure out, among 
> other things, what this was supposed to mean in Java-land, because a 
> number of states including the ones under current discussion were a 
> legacy inherited from javax.accessibility.  Maybe Peter K. knows?
> 
> I agree that we shouldn't drag useless stuff around forever, but my 
> concern is that just because something doesn't make sense to myself and 
> you guys at this moment, it doesn't mean that it wasn't useful and 
> sensible when originally mooted.  Now seems like a good time to nail it 
> down (and document it better than it was apparently documented before).
> 
> Bill
> 
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