Re: [Gimp-web] Social media: consolidation of comments

[Pat David <patdavid gmail com>]

Everything Alex said, but I'll be slightly more optimistic (vs realistic).

The idea that you're suggesting is a good one, but the use-case and
implementation is the tricky bit.

First, let me clarify so I understand what you may be proposing:

1. A means for any member of the GIMP team to view a feed of interactions
with the GIMP accounts across various social media platforms?
    (This does _not_ necessarily mean _any_ arbitrary mention of GIMP, just
the interactions directed towards the official accounts).
    That is, a view of mentions that are publicly visible and directed
towards the official account.

If that is the thought, there are some questions I have.

A. Should this be a public/visible place for us to view the information?
B. How would you see yourself interacting with a list of information like
this?
C. Would a web page with a list of these interactions and links work?

Simply producing a list of interaction with the official account might be
possible, but that is likely to be the extent of the interaction possible.
You'd still have to have an account and go to the social network to
continue those interactions.

Let me hack at this and see what I can find. (This is _highly_ experimental
and just a wild tangent that you've now got me on - so expect nothing to
come of this).

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 7:06 AM Alexandre Prokoudine <
alexandre prokoudine gmail com> wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Sven Claussner wrote:
>
> > Having to check and search many posts on FB, G+, Twitter,
> > mailing lists and forums is a tedious work which easily
> > gets neglected, especially when you as a coder just want
> > to code your idea that seems so wonderful. Thus many
> > chances are wasted.
>
> ???
>
> People have different roles in this project. Programmers don't
> habitually check social media for feedback, and schumaml, patdavid,
> and me -- people who check social media and maintain accounts -- don't
> write GIMP code.
>
> > I thought about some possibilities:
> > - Access Facebook, Twitter through their APIs.
>
> Facebook doesn't have an API.
>
> > - Forums: there are many GIMP forums around there in various languages
> > and therefore I doubt setting up and maintaining yet another one would
> > be a big benefit. But getting their latest news through RSS/Atom
> > feeds could be a help.
>
> I'll be blunt here. As someone who follows these forums I'm not sure
> what kind of insights you expect, given how their use of GIMP differs
> from what we design the software for (in 95% of cases or so).
>
> > - Uservoice,
>
> https://www.uservoice.com/plans/customer-support/
>
> All these services are commercial for anything more than a casual
> interest. They also require an employee with full-time occupation to
> sit in front of the control panel and move feedback between feedback
> platform and bugzilla. Moreover, they would change our relationship
> into the customer-developer kind, while we are not actually getting
> paid for working on GIMP.
>
> Personally, as much as I want communication transparency,
> user-friendliness, and professional-grade everything, I think we
> should not forget that GIMP is a community project by volunteers. This
> isn't a business.
>
> > Flickr
>
> You mean the GIMP users group?
>
> > Instagram
>
> Actionable feedback on Instagram? You must be joking :)
>
> > Pinterest
>
> Likewise
>
> > Disqus
>
> How is it related?
>
> > blogs
>
> That could bring something useful.
>
> > and professional press reviews could be other ways of getting feedback.
>
> Professional press reviews? Could you elaborate please?
>
> > - There is a social monitoring meta search on the web:
> > www.socialmention.com
>
> Which is pretty much useless.
>
> > It would be a great help if all this feedback was in one place
> > and we could search it by topic easily
>
> Implementing this is _incredibly_ expensive in terms of both money and
> human resources if you want it to be any useful any time soon.
>
> See, I work for a company that provides a social media monitoring
> service. Accumulating this kind of information means:
>
> - you pay for a server (or several servers) -- a lot;
> - you pay for the traffic -- a lot;
> - you need clever linguistic algorithms to sift through the data and
> categorize it;
> - you need clever algorithms that will detect spam in social media
> posts and remove those;
> - you need to design a query language, with negative words etc., to
> build sensible queries;
> - you need someone who maintains all this;
> - etc. etc. etc.
>
> Would it be useful for the team? I guess so. Is it realistic? Probably not.
>
> Alex
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