Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Version 2.8.16

Hello Kenny,

First of all, I am sorry to hear about your condition.

Unfortunately we don't store any compiled package for GIMP on Linux (unlike
Windows/macOS packages). Even our flatpak is quite new (since late GIMP 2.8
releases, if not mistaken). The Flathub repository actually stores an
history of former builds, so it is actually possible to install older
builds (this is quite a hidden feature of Flatpak, very useful for
debugging), but I just checked and the 2.8 builds are long gone because
Flathub only stores up to 25 builds (which makes me think that maybe we
should store standalone Flatpak builds on our download server, but someone
would have to do the work to automatize this as much as possible). So you
are out of luck here.

Maybe you should be able to get older .deb packages of Linux Mint. Normally
distributions also keep their older packages and there are also some
websites which keep archives of all packages made for various
distributions. So I'm sure GIMP 2.8.x packages for Mint can be found. And
if you are lucky, these older packages can still be installed manually and
work on a newer distribution. You should ask about this on Linux Mint

As for the remark of overlooking legacy, I believe GIMP to be quite good on
this actually. We take a lot of care to not break too much older usage, and
rarely remove a feature without implementing first a better alternative,
nor do we change things on a whim without thinking hard about it. Now we
still have to evolve. Caring about compatibility is important, but it
should not mean being stuck in the past. Still I am sorry to read about
such a neurological disorder and I do wish you all the best. If finding an
older GIMP is the best for you, I hope you'll find an older version and
continue doing more of the nice photography artworks you linked earlier. 🙂


On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 9:17 PM Kenny Mann via gimp-user-list <
gimp-user-list gnome org> wrote:

I just discovered that tools can be ungrouped in GIMP 2.10
(Sure, I can hold onto the concept that a tool is made visible by looking
inside the group of related tools, but with my particular cognitive
disorder, things that aren't visible tend to not exist in any functional
sense. Imagine if the location of absolutely everything in the world were
like the last time you lost your keys -- everything, all day, every day,
your whole life.)

Ungrouping the tools I use regularly makes it possible to have the toolbox
in 2.10 appear as it always has in GIMP 2 -- a major cognitive help.

Oh And: Now I see that the layers tab can be dragged to the set at the top
of the column and the brushes can be dragged to the set at the bottom. It's
nice not having the layers panel disappear until I look where the brushes
always were and then keep finding the brushes have disappeared until I
glance upward.

Yes, having things only truly functionally exist when they're in view is
weird. Be very glad you can take it for granted that things exist in
locations on routes that you can keep track of without applying total
conscious effort every single time.

Picture GIMP in your mind's eye. I can't. If you were to ask me where
things are in GIMP when I don't have the app open, I couldn't tell you,
even if you offered me an all-expenses-paid trip to Mars.

On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 2:50 PM Kenny Mann <kenny mann mal gmail com>

Why is GIMP 2.8.16 not available?

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