Re: [Gimp-user] Crowdfunding Proposal for Symmetry/Mirror Painting in GIMP


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:25 PM, FallenLegend <forums gimpusers com> wrote:
Hello there!

You make some great points as of now I just posted on deviantart to promote your
crowdfunding and also contacted gizmodo spain/usa and UK  to see if they are
willing to help spread the word!.I will do my best.

Thanks for this.

Keep in mind though that "open funding" is not as popular as let's say
lifehacker is so it might hurt earnings a bit. But I am hopeful that you will be

I am aware of this. This is a pretty new platform.
My reasons are that I don't like too much too much centralization,
like everyone using the same services. Also OpenFunding is for Free
Software, so philosophically they are closer to what I do. Finally I
like to give outsiders their chances.
If everyone was just acting only on what is best for himself "now",
well it will bite them later on, when the only companies are the big
ones and choice does not exist anymore.

Of course, if really it was to "hurt" me to do so, I am not masochist,
and in a next crowdfunding attempt, I may go for a more common
platform (a little sad, but I can't kill myself just to be nice to
someone else). But if the only consequence is to get me slightly less
fund (but I still reach my objective), well that's good enough for me.

I was all for a "big do all proyect"  as people are more willing to give money
for those ( I have seen proyects collecting millions for those. But I think that
your approach of testing the waters first is completely justifiable.

Yes I have seen projects collecting huge amount of money. But even
though some actually went somewhere, I also saw many like "disappear"
in nature. I don't say that they had the intent at the beginning, but
maybe they realized the project was too complicated to succeed, or
they got bored of the project, or whatever. But whichever the reason,
the result is same: no deliverables, but still everyone paid. And
there are also a few cases of Free Software who did it (I won't name,
but I'm sure we all have a few names in our head).
That's really uncool.

I will try to contact other news networks and forums to spread the word

You have all my support  and good luck!.

Cool. Thanks!


About this, my first idea was that I saw many crowdfunding which were
a "do-all" kind of funding, but in the end, after huge successful
funding, well people would still wait for real news or advancement in
the software 1 or 2 years later.
I have nothing against big do-all projects, and I think that's a good
thing to do too, but I would love more user control, not just a "I
take all your money and leave" kind of campaign from some team.
I think making 1 feature at a time is already a nice start to do
things where users can actually see what happens and control. I will
consider a bigger project if this one succeeds.
There is no "personal" in GIMP. Nobody is employed by GIMP right now.
And actually GIMP is not even an official structure. The only official
entity which supports GIMP is the GNOME foundation, but I feel they
act more as a proxy for all official matters (donations, events,
volunteer reimbursements, website and bug tracking infrastructure...).
GIMP is far from the only project under their protection, and probably
far from the priority. We are all "volunteers" here, for the time

I don't say that could never happen. And seriously I would love to be
this one guy paid full-time to work on GIMP and do all the nitty
features everyone wants. Nevertheles if really people want this, well
a good way to prove it is to actually fund these kind of features!
Because everyone sees these also as a test to see if crowdfunding
would really work for bigger projects. I mean right now, people say
so, but in reality, there has been nearly no funding for my simple and
small proposal so far. How can we trust that if we make a big
proposal, people would pay for it, or we would just waste more time?
Note also that even if I make a huge do-them-all proposal, I would
still have to work on things on a one-per-one basis (because I still
have only a single brain, however how much money is paid! :p), so that
would not change that much.

In any case, if ever my crowdfunding works, I will consider make some
bigger plan proposal for a next crowdfunding, and see if t is possible
to get backed up officially by the rest of the GIMP team and GNOME
(maybe I would even be happy to sign a contract with the GNOME
foundation to be an official community-employee, so that we ensure the
money is well used). But right now, there is still to be seen if
people really want to pay for it, or just say they would and wait for
the neighbour to do so.
Good so I hope you are for this feature and would pay for it! :p
Thanks for the interest anyway!


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