Re: [Gimp-user] Crowdfunding Proposal for Symmetry/Mirror Painting in GIMP

[Jehan Pagès <jehan marmottard gmail com>]

Hi,

On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 5:11 PM, FallenLegend <forums gimpusers com> wrote:
> I support this idea but I don't think we should limit ourselves to this feature.

About this, my first idea was that I saw many crowdfunding which were
a "do-all" kind of funding, but in the end, after huge successful
funding, well people would still wait for real news or advancement in
the software 1 or 2 years later.
I have nothing against big do-all projects, and I think that's a good
thing to do too, but I would love more user control, not just a "I
take all your money and leave" kind of campaign from some team.
I think making 1 feature at a time is already a nice start to do
things where users can actually see what happens and control. I will
consider a bigger project if this one succeeds.

> All the long term goals the team has could easily be solved with hiring more
> personal.

There is no "personal" in GIMP. Nobody is employed by GIMP right now.
And actually GIMP is not even an official structure. The only official
entity which supports GIMP is the GNOME foundation, but I feel they
act more as a proxy for all official matters (donations, events,
volunteer reimbursements, website and bug tracking infrastructure...).
GIMP is far from the only project under their protection, and probably
far from the priority. We are all "volunteers" here, for the time
being.

I don't say that could never happen. And seriously I would love to be
this one guy paid full-time to work on GIMP and do all the nitty
features everyone wants. Nevertheles if really people want this, well
a good way to prove it is to actually fund these kind of features!
Because everyone sees these also as a test to see if crowdfunding
would really work for bigger projects. I mean right now, people say
so, but in reality, there has been nearly no funding for my simple and
small proposal so far. How can we trust that if we make a big
proposal, people would pay for it, or we would just waste more time?
Note also that even if I make a huge do-them-all proposal, I would
still have to work on things on a one-per-one basis (because I still
have only a single brain, however how much money is paid! :p), so that
would not change that much.

In any case, if ever my crowdfunding works, I will consider make some
bigger plan proposal for a next crowdfunding, and see if t is possible
to get backed up officially by the rest of the GIMP team and GNOME
(maybe I would even be happy to sign a contract with the GNOME
foundation to be an official community-employee, so that we ensure the
money is well used). But right now, there is still to be seen if
people really want to pay for it, or just say they would and wait for
the neighbour to do so.

> I am all for more features specifically for painters :)

Good so I hope you are for this feature and would pay for it! :p
Thanks for the interest anyway!

Jehan

> > Hello,
> >
> > Lately several people have asked why we won't do crowdfunding for
> > GIMP. The general position of GIMP developers towards this proposition
> > is that the core developers usually have "day jobs", thus won't raise
> > money this way.
> > Well I am one of them and I don't have a day job right now, thus I
> > have decided to give it a try.
> >
> > During the Libre Graphics Meeting in Madrid, the painter who was with
> > me tried the mirror mode during Krita workshop. And I thought it would
> > be a nice addition to the GIMP. Apparently I am not alone because I
> > see regularly messages asking for it.
> >
> > So I started a test implementation to see how it would go. And it
> > works well. See the demo: http://youtu.be/osSiETyae5c
> >
> > But now if I want it in GIMP, this is where it will really take time,
> > to make a nice and clean implementation and a well-thought internal
> > design.  So I start a crowdfunding initiative.
> > Have a look there with all the explanation:
> > http://girinstud.io/news/2013/09/crowdfunding-proposal-for-symmetrymirror-painting-in-gimp/
> >
> > And if you like it, please fund me and spread the word:
> > http://funding.openinitiative.com/funding/1578/
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Jehan
>
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