Re: [Gimp-user] File format question

Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 18:01:01 +0200
From: psiweapon gmail com
To: gimp-user-list gnome org; juan olvido gmail com; christenanderson1994 gmail com
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] File format question

Hey thanks for the link!

I think I understood it. It's elitist, politicky crap, although an excess of vodka can't be ruled out with current evidence.

I guess I'll be adding my transparencies with Graphics Gale unless I totally need to use a RGB PNG for partial transparencies or whatever.

Good going for gimp, that move is very low-end user friendly. I guess the developers that introduced that now feel all special and 1337, with their program officially importing standard formats - also adds a lot of flexibility.

The "you can't use this dialog anymore, go through the service door you loser" is also really helpful and fun.

Thanks for your time!

On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Christen Anderson <christenanderson1994 gmail com> wrote:
On 9/9/2012 9:05 AM, Psiweapon wrote:
Hey there, I'm a newcomer, although I've been using Gimp for some years now (nothing advanced though)

Exactly WHY or WHO the HELL thought it was a good idea to leave common image formats (.png, .gif, etc.) out of the "save" menu in 2.8????

Was this decision taken because of legal issues, politicky crap, too much vodka, or what the fuck? Could anybody enlighten me, please?

Thank you for your time.

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So you know, there are several hundred emails on the mailing list discussing the whole save/export change and while yours is actually not the most venomous bitching we've heard about the subject ... it's pretty close.  Definitely would make the top ten, if not top five.

As mentioned in the link (which, hopefully you read, given your tone of voice it's hard to be sure), the problem is that a lot of people lost actual time and work on their compositions by saving to a standard file format and then quitting GIMP before saving back to their XCF workfile.  A related phenomena is that by saving to a standard file format and quitting, when GIMP asks to save changes and the user selects "yes" it saves changes to the (most recently used) non-XCF file instead of the XCK workfile, then it quits like you told it to.

As for me?  I am about 50% comfortable with the change and 50% critical of it.  I see the reasons why, and I have to keep reminding myself to use the new command, but if you can get used to the new model then it is actually faster than the old method.  At the same time, I still believe (and quite fiercely ;) ) that the message you get in the Save dialog should offer to transfer you to the Export command as a convenience, even though the devs won't hear anything of the sort (they disagree just as strong).

I also believe that this whole thing would never have become as great a problem if people used a little-known command called "Save a copy", which right now is completely identical to "Export" with exception of target file format.

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