Re: [Gimp-developer] Default file name for file-export action

[Mikel Garai <mikel garai eu>]

May I suggest leaving it as it is?

for the ones of us that take, e.g. 1000 pictures, and want to do some 
little adjustment in most of them, the workflow is already a pain with 
the new save/export thing, don't make it any harder please.

My typical workflow is:

 * browse the images in geeqie
 * open an image in gimp (i.e. IMG_38210.jpg)
 * make little changes (takes me about 1-5 minutes)
 * save (well, now export) to IMG_38210_0.tif (is just replacing ".jpg"
   with "_0.tif")
 * close image in gimp (and normally export again just in case, that
   "unsaved changes" dialog is scary)
 * continue browsing images in geeqie

The thing is that if the "export" dialog does not automatically put the 
name of the file in it I will have to manually enter it looking at the 
window title, so more room for human errors in the process (that in big 
amount of files could be significant, and if I open 3 files it could be 
just infinity).

Saving them to .xcf is not a practical option since I then convert them 
to ".jpg" and scale them in a batch process with imagemagick (to 
distribute them) and because it does not save me any time even if I have 
to redo some images.

Yes yes, I know that I'm not the target user and I probably will have to 
end up using something like darktable or similar (even if I prefer 
geeqie for browsing, directories for organizing and gimp for editing) 
but I want to postpone that change as much as possible. So please, leave 
the Export path for the "daredevil" users that do not want to be 
protected from ourselves, you already have the save path with "Save" 
file actions.

And for Jehan, yes, is kind of weird to use "export" with the default 
name set to the same of the one opened, but is meant to be "export from 
gimp" which format is "xcf", so saving to any other format is actually 
exporting it (if I understood correctly from previous emails in this list)

Best Regards,

Mikel




On 13/11/13 09:42, Jehan Pagès wrote:
> Hi Peter,
>
> Currently if you started a work from an image (jpg, png, whatever) the
> first "export" dialog will propose you the original source image name
> as export filename.
>
> In other words:
> 1/ Open "foo.jpg"
> 2/ Modify your image.
> 3/ ctrl-e (export)
> 4/ The default proposition for an export filename is "foo.jpg" (in
> other words, by default, it proposes to overwrite your source!).
>
> But I think that's not right, because it goes against the logics of
> not destroying your source files as a *default* workflow. You can
> still enter the same file name if you really wish it, but then you
> have to do it explicitly. The default should be for instance
> "Untitled.jpg" (same as the default for saving will be "Untitled.xcf"
> on the first save).
> I've actually already made mistakes sometimes when testing some image
> modification quickly and did not really care about the filename, as
> long as it is different as the original. I just wanted to export it.
> Untitled.jpg would have been fine to me. But it proposed me the
> original by default, very risky if I go on a frenzy Enter-Enter usage!
>
> Moreover even for those who have needs of quick edition of the
> original file, without saving, there is the "file-overwrite" action
> anyway (for which they can make a shortcut). The "file-export" would
> be more for those who want to *really* export, to a different name,
> no? So the default filename proposition should be different, in my
> opinion.
> What do you think?
>
> Anyway I have already made a patch proposing this change, and Mitch
> told me to ask you what you think about it:
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=712194
> Thanks!
>
> Jehan
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