Re: [Gimp-developer] about that student work...

[Michael Schumacher <schumaml gmx de>]

On 07.06.2013 12:55, peter sikking wrote:

Hi peter,

> of course I can do this design, and that includes addressing
> both user needs and developer needs.

nice to hear from you.


> but I do not want to have the same disappointing experience of
> SoC as I had in the last few years.
>
> in particular, I do not want to be confronted by either student
> or technical mentor with the following:
>
> - I did not expect the UI was going to be like this,

This is, I'd say, expected - if everyone knew how a particular UI would 
have to be like, it would just be done that way.

>    so now we have a problem;

I'm not sure how to read this correctly. After going over your mail 
multiple times, it seems more and more likely that this is meant as a 
caption for the following points, I'm going to read it as such.


> - the back-end is already fixed. no, we are not going to change it;

Entirely valid.


> - I never thought about that, so forget it;

Same, IMO. Also see the last point.


> - first we going to put in some provisional UI, later we do your design

This, however, puzzles me a bit. I'll exaggerate to describe my confusion:

This means that no sign of any non-finished UI might become available to 
the public through GIMP code. The developers working on it would do so 
under conditions which border on an NDA, and only commit code to the 
public repositories once the UI has been completely finished.


> these are not just demands, it also comes with taking more
> responsibility from the design side, basically co-mentorship.

Going back to GSoC, and taking the limited time frame of the program 
into account, how is the sheer inability to finish the UI due to time 
constraints to be taken into account?


> when UI is compromised to make it happen, it better be compromised
> by the designer, who can see _all_ the dimensions.


Just one thing there:
The issue of what communication channels to use has not been solved yet. 
You have mentioned that you prefer not to use low-width channels like 
mail or IRC, but what should be used instead?


> this is an invitation to start working again...

I'm delighted to read that.


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Regards,
Michael