Re: [gedit-list] gedit redesign

[Ignacio Casal Quinteiro <nacho resa gmail com>]

Hi Adam,

On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 2:55 AM, Adam Dingle <adam medovina org> wrote:

For those who don't know, the gedit developers have been working on a redesign of gedit in the 'wip/redesign' branch.  Here are some mockups that Ignacio pointed me to:

https://raw.github.com/gnome-design-team/gnome-mockups/master/gedit/gedit-menus.png

Here you have latest mockups:
https://raw.github.com/gnome-design-team/gnome-mockups/master/gedit/gedit-menus-v2.png

And the ones about tabs:
https://raw.github.com/gnome-design-team/gnome-mockups/master/theming/experiments/tabs.png

 

It appears that the major goals of the redesign are

 (a) to replace Gedit's menus with a single application menu plus a single gear menu

 (b) to use a new visual style (implemented by the GtkHeaderBar class) which unifies the title bar and toolbar into a single bar

Ignacio has assured me that no features will be removed as part of the redesign.

Yes, this is probably the difference between gedit and other apps.

 

Here are some questions, first for the developers:

1. What is the chance that this redesign will land in GNOME 3.10?  In 3.12?  Ever?

For 3.10 I'm pretty sure NO! For 3.12 Maybe. To be honest we are still not completely happy with the new redesign but experimenting is good! In fact thanks to it we have removed the menu for changing the highlighting mode and added the new dialog which IMHO it is way better. We have also in mind changing a few things more, like i.e adding the "Move to new Tab Group" menuitem. Or moving the Documents menu to a specific menu button near the tab bar. (See the tab mockup for an example on this)

 

2. Will all existing plugins will need to be modified to work with this redesigned gedit?  Certainly it seems that plugins which create menu items will need to change since the menu system is changing so much.

Clearly the ones that need to add a menu item yes. We had this problem before when we switched to libpeas and then when we switched to python 3. I know it is bad, and seriously we do not like it at all making plugins to change but they were needed changes.

 

3. Will plugins be able to add menu items to the gear menu?  To the application menu?  Will they be able to add new buttons to the combined title bar/toolbar?

No idea.... the design is not clear on this and that's one of the things it is stopping us. At some point I thought about an extension point for the preferences dialog and another for the gear menu and the application menu, but not sure about this.

 

4. Is there any Web page with newer mockups or other information about this effort?

They are pointed out at the beginning of this mail.

 

And a question for users:

1. Do you want this?  Does this seem like it will make gedit easier to use and/or nicer looking?  Are you looking forward to this change?

adam

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