Re: Builder crowdsourcing banner on PGO

[Magdalen Berns <m berns thismagpie com>]

Hi,

Right. So, to recap: those who are objecting have never used a credit/debit card to buy stuff or get cash out the wall?

What seems to be being suggested by some members of the community here, is that it's physically possible to achieve certain everything we wish to do in the technological world by using only free software, including on the web and for banking transactions. Yet it also seems like nobody is able to suggest a viable free alternative to indiGoGo as a fundraiser platform: Curious, that. :D

Do those objecting to this recognise that Builder needs a fundraising platform and for the project fundraiser page to to be promoted for the fundraiser to be successful in achieving it's aims (i.e. to pay the people who are currently working on it full time and are currently out-of-pocket)? If not I have to urge people who are unsure of this, to seriously consider the great sacrifice that Christian is making to work on this project full time - A project which specifically seeks to be beneficial to the community of developers and contributors at GNOME in this because seriously: IndiGoGo is not going to give a crap whether Builder's banner is on GNOME's site or not. Let's not cut off our noses to spite our faces here.

With all that said, perhaps as a sort of "compromise" Christian could also think about publishing a bitcoin address on the indigogo page, so that those who are used to making transactions and are offended by the idea of indigogo are able to donate with this way instead.

In any case +1 the indigogo banner idea. Moreover, I hope this is just the start: Personally, I would like to the community engage in this sort of innovative fundraising effort, as a "thing".

Happy 2015

Magdalen

On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna <sri ramkrishna me> wrote:

On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 5:29 AM, Michael Catanzaro <mcatanzaro gnome org> wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 4:04 AM, Igor Gnatenko <ignatenko gnome org> wrote:
>
> What nonfree software is needed? I think I don't have nonfree software, but
> I donated without problems.
>
> He doesn't like obfuscated _javascript_:
> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/_javascript_-trap.html
>
> Let's not let that hold us back from supporting a very important free
> software project....

Completely agree.  Especially considering that RMS has not provided
any reasonable alternatives other than to find them.  Short of
shunting them directly into a specialized foundation bank account and
creating extra work for Zana and Kat that is already a full time job I
don't see any other immediate method.  We also risk muddying the
waters with alternatives and no longer creating an effective campaign.
I think in the end, Free Software loses more than it gains and we
create more stress for everyone to boot.  It's not worth the human
cost.

Please feel free to add the banner if there is a general consensus
from Foundation members that this is the right thing to do.

sri

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