Re: Archiving wiki pages [was: Re: Minutes of the Board meeting of October 29th, 2013]

[Allan Day <allanpday gmail com>]

Dave Neary <dneary gnome org> wrote:
> > > Mairin worked on logo & brand guidelines back in 2006. That was the work
> > > (I believe that you based this page off.
> >
> > Those old guidelines were seriously out of date and were desperately
> > in need of a refresh. We have also been wanting to move the guidelines
> > off the public wiki for (literally) years. I'm only embarrassed that
> > it took me so long to get around to it. :)
>
> what was out of date about them?

To be clear - their uptodateness was only one motivation for the
rewrite. There's been requests to move them off the public part of the
wiki for quite some time, and the old guidelines could have been much
clearer (I'm not going to list all the reasons why). I think I
succeeded in creating something that is much more succinct, and that
people understand more readily (maybe that's one reason for the
attention the guidelines have got). There were also obvious omissions,
like the lack of guidelines on the GNOME name.

For me the out of date part primarily related to the colours and
sub-brands - none of this reflected current practice, either by the
sub-brands that do exist or the kind of graphics we use on the
website, flyers, posters, annual reports and so on. The sub-brands
part of the page was also indicated to not be approved by the board -
which sent a confusing message.

> > > And all of the links to her
> > > work are now broken and point at this page.
> >
> > Links to our trademark guidelines shouldn't point to our trademark
> > guidelines? I don't get your point...
>
> Links to specific revisions in email threads had stopped working, and on
> the page I landed on, I did not see the history of the page (as you saw
> later in the thread, I did find the history later after logging in, so
> the old content hasn't disappeared). I know we can't rely on wili pages
> being permalinks, by I for one would like to see "...if you are looking
> for the content which was here formerly, you can find it [archive link]
> here".

That sounds like a good idea.

> > [1] https://cloud.gnome.org/public.php?service=files&t=a449c85c1f3af0d761eddb018e45388b&path=//BrandBook
> > [2] https://wiki.gnome.org/action/info/BrandGuidelines?action=info
>
> Would it be possible to link to these when archiving/cleaning out
> content, please? The cloud.gnome.org stuff is great - but this is the
> first time I've seen it, it's not very findable from the wiki.

There are a couple of links on the Engagement team page. Suggestions
for ways to make it more visible are welcome.

Allan