Re: jabber.gnome.org's future

[Owen Taylor <otaylor redhat com>]

Hi Shaun,

It's certainly recognized that shutting down jabber.gnome.org would
cause pain for people who are using it. But in the end, system
administration resources are limited, and we have to balance that
against the costs to us to provide an open-ended promise to continue
running the service indefinitely.

With email, we have to have a functioning email server for gnome.org,
anyways and all we provide on top of that is automated aliases. The
incremental security and maintenance burden of gnome.org email addresses
is minimal.

With XMPP, on the other hand, we have a complete service which is
running *only* to provide XMPP service to on the order of a dozen
people. I don't think this is a strategic use of our resources.

The only way it would make sense to me is if we had some expectation
that over time that the number of users would grow to a significant
fraction of the GNOME membership.

- Owen

On Fri, 2013-03-01 at 10:59 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-03-01 at 13:45 +0100, Andrea Veri wrote:
> > Howdy guys,
> >
> >
> > as you may know we're currently hosting an openfire istance (jabber
> > server) on one of our machines, I'm currently migrating a good bunch
> > of services and reviewing all the services we host in case they need
> > an upgrade or just a little maintenance. 
> >
> >
> > I have a few questions I would like to ask to our Foundation members
> > (jabber.gnome.org is actually a service meant for @gnome.org
> > addresses) about our jabber service:
> >
> >
> > 1. have you ever used jabber.gnome.org?
> > 2. is it a service you find useful?
>
> I use it every single day. It is my primary IM account. 
>
> > 3. do you think we should discontinue it? if yes, why? if not, why?
>
> No. For the same reason I don't think I should lose my @gnome.org
> email address. It's part of my digital identity.
>
> > 4. what are the major issues you had with it and you would like to see
> > fixed? (apart the self-signed SSL certificate, which will be fixed
> > soon)
>
> For some reason, you can't use the default server settings.
> I have to put Server: jabber.gnome.org, Port: 5223, and check
> "Use old SSL" in Empathy to make it work.
>
> Also, the password is tied to the Mango password, which is
> some autogenerated nonsense I can never remember. Good thing
> we have a keyring in GNOME, but it's a hassle when setting
> up a new machine.
>
> --
> Shaun
>
>
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