Re: GNOME now

[Bastien Nocera <hadess hadess net>]

On Tue, 2012-11-27 at 17:22 -0800, Jeremy Allison wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Liam R E Quin <liam holoweb net> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2012-11-27 at 17:06 -0800, Jeremy Allison wrote:
> 
> >> Is the GNU system for programmers only ? I doubt that is what you
> >> mean.
> >
> > I'm sure it isn't.
> 
> I know :-), I'm just pointing out that's what it looked like.
> 
> > The software for the mobile devices has to be written by programmers.
> >
> > If the programmers write the software on desktop computers then we want
> > them to be using GNOME while they do it.
> >
> > If programmers have to use some other desktop environment when writing
> > the application, they'll want to have that same environment on their
> > mobile devices, and that will have an impact on GNOME's usage.
> 
> I'm really not worried about programmers desktops - GNU/Linux is so
> widespread in the technical fields that this is a battle we are
> already doing well in (not as well as I'd like, I'm still massively
> irritated by how many of my programmer colleagues think it's
> acceptable to use a freedom-hurting Apple laptop/desktop, but I
> digress).

As we're in the nitpick thread, you're putting people running any
software on Apple hardware in the same basket. My Mac runs Linux, always
has. It's a shame I can't get custom designed hardware designed as
easily as I can software.

>  The goal we should be aiming for is freedom for all computer
> users, and like it or not, the majority of computer uses in the next 5
> years will be on phones and tablets.
> 
> To pretend otherwise and focus on PC-style devices is trying to gain
> traction in a shrinking market, which outside of business use will
> soon be irrelevant.