Re: Temujin

[George <jirka 5z com>]

On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 09:55:37PM +0100, Dmitri Hrapof wrote:
> > "Temujin"
> > They were swift, precise, equipped with superior
> > technology, ingenious in their approach to war, 
> > keenly organised and consistently outnumbered - 
> > not that it detracted from their exploits on the 
> > battlefield.
> 
> First of all, let me thank you for your great work!
> I'm truly devoted to GNU (associate member) & Open
> Source & CORBA & GNOME.
> But I'm also not completely ignorant of history.
> The same words --- "swift, precise, etc." can ne said
> about Nazi troops. After all, they fought the rest of
> the world for 6 years, 1939-1945. Why hadn't you named
> that release after Adolf Hitler?

Well, we could have also named it "George Bush" (oh wait,
I think we'd fail in the 'ingenious' category there).
Anyway, any political figure in history far enough back
will likely not be an example of humanist values. 
It's just history you see ... we're not trying to elect
Temujin the president of the world, or give him the
nobel peace prize.

So if we named the release "Plato", would you say that
Plato was in fact a proponent of a fasist state (even
more fasist then the fasist IMO)? (which he was)

But the analogy to Plato would not be too good for GNOME,
I don't think.  Plus Plato was a wanker, but that's beside
the point.

> I guess you haven't seen piles of bones found by
> archeologists in burned cities: Moscow, Kiev, Ryazan,
> Vladimir, Chernigov, etc. And there were also Chinese
> cities, Asian cities, Georgian cities, Polish cities,
> Korean cities, Arab cities, Iranian cities. And
> genocide everywhere. Have you heard Russian folk songs
> about Mongol invasion?
> Hatred is bad feeling, but personally I feel nothing
> but hatred about Temujin. :-(

I'm Czech, we were under Habsburg rule for 600 years or so
partly because of the mongols, should I hate them too?

If we're trying to be accountable for history, I have a request
for the Swedes.  We want all the art you stole during the 30
year war back, damnit!  Damn wankers in turtlenecks.

> I guess I'll use KDE.

I'll go use UDE, because I can't as a Czech use KDE, because
it was made by Germans, and we're not supposed to like them
I think.  At least that's what the head of the nazi party in
Czech told us.  (Funny huh?  Nazis not liking Germans)

UDE: GET USED TO IT!

George

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George <jirka 5z com>
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