>
> what you're saying is a honestly a bit unfair, lists decommission has
> been communicated multiple times over the past few months, see [1]
> and [2],
Communicated to whom?
Have you ever read "Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy"?
One glaring omission in [1] and [2] is *this* *list*. Are you expecting
everyone on this list to also be on the Gnome devel and foundation
lists? Many people who use this list don't even use Gnome, have no
interest in Gnome, nor really care about it. They just use Evolution
and want some help.
This list is hosted on the GNOME Infrastructure which is sponsored by the GNOME Foundation and our sponsors, so yes, I expect at least one list representative to be subscribed to one of those lists.
> but what's even more discouraging is seeing users on your list
It's not my list. I'm just a user who has been trying to help people.
> mentioning we're switching to *Discord*, or others not even
> understanding Discourse has the same mailing list workflow that you
> have today but has some sugar added on top for people who like web
> forums and other features Discourse provides.
My experience of web forums is that the discussions are disjointed,
without any real threading, and it's difficult to follow detailed,
lengthy, discussions. Does tacking a mail interface on to it alleviate
any of those issues?
Do the notifications mails from Discourse have threading information in
them? I don't see how it can if some posts are written on the forum and
some are email based. Have these sorts of issues been thought about?
This is a mail client we are talking about here, we CARE about such
things.
They do, an example set of headers from one of the replies I got recently:
The above IDs have been replaced with fake ones, but you get the idea.
As you can see the web forum and the plain mail setup are handled via unique topic/threads IDs which are contained in the response emails users get. On top of that you can filter by List-ID, exactly as you did with Mailman. I want to keep stressing out how your workflow won't change, Discourse is a totally acceptable solution for users that don't want to interact with a web interface.
The Accessibility team wrote a great overview / instructions set [1] which may be useful for you guys as well, we're seeing good traction in people adopting the new tool and contributing into making sure other lists can do the same.
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>
> There's a subset of lists (the l10n ones) which have requested an
> exception from October's deadline, we can surely offer that in case
> you want some more time in order to migrate somewhere else or just
> give Discourse a try. But please, very please, let's just stop
> complaining for the sake of doing so and without having even tried
> using the new tool.
But if we try it and don't like it, what then? I presume there is no
other option under the auspices of Gnome? There's no point in lying
down in front of the bulldozer?
P.
Cheers,
Andrea
Principal Systems Engineer at Red Hat,
GNOME Infrastructure Team Coordinator,
Former GNOME Foundation Board of Directors Secretary,
GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman
