[Evolution] Keyring Password issues again!!

[Chris and Tracey <debtfree411 xnet co nz>]

Has anyone else faced this? 

Kernel : Linux 3.2.0-4-486 (i686)
Compiled : #1 Debian 3.2.32-1
Distribution : LMDE Xfce Edition - Running Mate

Starting Evolution (3.4.4) - and what started out as a minor irritation is now a major. I used to be able to just minimize it and see email and send receive ok. 

Now It will not give me that option as a work around. I actually found the password that worked last week and then the last few days that stopped!

I tried an earlier terminal fix for the same problem I had last year. 
sudo sed -i 's/gnome_keyring/mate_keyring/g' /etc/pam.d/*
Logged out - restart and problem still persists

That didn't work either. I also tried the "set password in default to blank/empty" that didn't work as well!

Anyone got a clue how to remove keyrings without knowing the passwords?