Re: [Evolution] seperate identities and outgoing servers

[LF <leon free free fr>]

Le mardi 14 septembre 2010 Ã 08:11 +0100, Pete Biggs a Ãcrit :
> [[ Unimportant bits of message trimmed - usually a good thing to do. ]]
>
>
> > > Since you only have two servers and two SMTP relay hosts, it's a
> > > relatively simple thing to setup two accounts that reflect the normal
> > > way things are done, i.e. imapA & SMTPa and imapB & SMTPb.  You can then
> > > setup two "dummy" accounts effectively as imapA & SMTPb and imapB &
> > > SMTPa, but crucially you set the receiving type on those accounts as
> > > "NONE", so they won't actually retrieve any mail (but other than that
> > > they should be identical).  Then when you want to send things via SMTPb
> > > as imapA you just select the relevant item in the "From:" drop down in
> > > the composer.
> >
> > Thanks. Google kindly made that suggestion before I decide to post on
> > the evolution list. OK: it's not that difficult. But I think it's not a
> > natural way to setup "dummy" accounts and manage 4 distinct entries in
> > the "From" field when you actually only need 2...
>
> It's only not "natural" because you are used to how Thunderbird does it.
> I have to use Thunderbird on one of my machines and I find everything in
> it counter-intuitive - all this fussing about with "identities", and how
> SMTP relays are not part of an account setup, but are setup separately -
> it's just WRONG.

Not sure: compare it with ordinary mail. Your identity/address/mailbox
are usually linked together (OK, you can find exceptions) and related to
incoming mail. And totally independent of sending mail operations: you
can just choose whatever postal service available to you.

> But seriously, Evolution is not a Thunderbird clone, nor is it an
> Outlook clone.  It is Evolution.  It has its own design - whether it's a
> good or bad design is a personal opinion.  You basically have four
> choices:
>
>   1 - Use it (and come to realise it's better :-) )
>
>   2 - File a bug/request for enhancement and wait for someone to like it
> enough to code it
>
>   3 - Code it yourself and submit it for inclusion
>
>   4 - Don't use Evolution
>
> The bottom line is that you asked how something should be done.  I've
> told you how it's done in Evolution, Google even told you the same
> answer.  Turning round and saying "I don't like that I want to do it
> this way but Evolution won't let me", is daft.
>
> P.


It is not what I'm thinking/saying. I just want to give a try with
Evolution and compare its everyday use with that of Thunderbird. I was
confused because I didnt find something that I'm used to (sending a mail
with an independent pair of ("From",smtp)) and for which I found a
natural^H^H^H... err... easy way with Thunderbird. Before setting my
choice, I just ask the community (Google and this list). It doesnt mean
I want Evo to change its mind. Discard alternatives 2 and 3 ;-) 

And freedom to say that (possibly because I'm used to other mailers and
probably other things) I think Evo's answer to what Im trying to do is
"unatural" and likely to make my decision turning towards other
solutions.

But nothing decided yet: look at the header (mailer agent)! :-)

Btw, "Identity" is not such nasty concept that we safely bypass using
Evolution: it is the name of the fisrt step in setting up a mail account
in Evo ;-)

LF