Re: [Evolution] Questions on expunging

[Internaut at Large <dkap mailhost haven org>]

On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 18:16 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 17:10 -0500, Internaut at Large wrote:
> > Greetings,
> >
> > On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 12:28 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > [...] 
> > > You could do that, and it would work as long as you remembered to do
> > > everything in the right order.
> >
> > I'd write a script to do so, every Sunday, so you don't have to
> > remember, and put the script in cron, or something similar.  Or just run
> > the script first thing Monday morning, after it has sucked down, and
> > filtered all the incoming mail (a touch longer to wait on Monday morning
> > to read my mail, after being away all weekend from it, but ... worth it,
> > if it were to be the way I wanted to do things).
>
> That's OK. As I said earlier, you can script it outside of Evo, just not
> inside. Make sure the script and the Evo installation agree on what the
> various folder names are, or it could get embarassing. And of course run
> it only when the user is online to the server (can be tricky with mobile
> users). And be careful about concurrent access to the mailboxes, which
> is undefined in IMAP.

Why not write a script or plugin for within evolution?  There should be
some way to do that ...

> > > > Also, I'd pin my "trash" to the current-old folder (so when you "delete"
> > > > a message, it moves it to the current-old folder. as opposed to simply
> > > > marking it as trash).
> > >
> > > I've no idea what you mean by "pin my 'trash'". Evo's Trash is a virtual
> > > folder which doesn't correspond to any one physical folder. Evo *never*
> > > moves a message when deleting it, it just marks it.
> >
> > Right, so I would want the "delete" button to be actually the button I
> > talk about, below, simply name it "delete" in the interface, but instead
> > of actually deleting mail, it would do a move (copy/mark as deleted) to
> > the current-old folder for things that want to eventually end up
> > deleted, if they aren't rescued from the trash before then.
> >
> > > > This would (of course) be made easier if there was some way to make a
> > > > button that would move things to specific folders, as opposed to simply
> > > > opening up the move dialog box.
> > >
> > > This still doesn't address the OP's request for "automated expunging".
> >
> > Well the two in combination would.  The script and the re-purposed
> > "delete" icon/key mapping.  Being able to move things, with a single
> > click/keypress, into the current-old folder, and have the script either
> > automatically be engaged weekly (or by hand, out of habit weekly) one
> > then has the functionality asked for.  It's somewhat crude, but it works
> > within the strictures and structure of how IMAP works.
>
> The "repurposed" Delete key means changing Evo's interface, since it
> can't be done with Evo as it stands (which is what the OP was asking).
> Of course it could be done, no question, but are you going to do it? And
> support it? I know I'm not. So it boils down to convincing the devels
> that such a fairly radical change is a good idea and worth their time.
> Good luck with that.
>
> Or you could just use Claws ...

I already have a diff file that adds a "move" button to my button bar,
in between delete and junk.

419a420,423
>       <toolitem name="MessageMove" verb=""
>        _label="Move"
>        pixtype="pixbuf"/>

So, if there was some way to pin the MessageMove to move things, by
invocation to a specific folder (current-old, in my description)
something similar might be easily distributed, and maintained across
versions. (this one is for 2.22
evolution/2.22/ui/evolution-mail-message.xml) so, it shouldn't be hard.

-dkap