Re: [Evolution] Server Side Spam Filters and Evolution Search Folder

[Alfredo Matos <alfredo matos digitalself org>]

On Sun, 2007-07-29 at 23:18 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 02:35 +0100, Alfredo Matos wrote:
> > On Sun, 2007-07-29 at 15:35 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2007-07-29 at 19:58 +0100, Alfredo Matos wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 2007-07-16 at 00:21 -0600, Sankar P wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 21:19 +0100, Alfredo Matos wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I use an IMAP server which is integrated with spamassassin, a fairly
> > > > > > common and widespread setup. The spam is marked at the server and
> > > > > > automatically moved to trash. But, evolution's Unread Search Folder
> > > > > > fulter insists on marking it as unread, mixing it with my normal mail,
> > > > > > which is rather annoying.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The question is how to filter out messages that are so they don't show
> > > > > > up on the unread search folder. Back in earlier versions of EVO, it was
> > > > > > possible to define the Search Folder rules based on specific header
> > > > > > rules, but that is not true anymore, any special reason why ?
> > > > >
> > > > > You can still do it. Just see if you have added the header to the list
> > > > > of headers that are fetched (edit->preferences->edit_account, IMAP
> > > > > Headers tab)
> > > >
> > > > I tried this, but nothing changes in the rule interface, like "Edit
> > > > Search folder".
> > > >
> > > > I want to properly parse the mails that have spam information, set by
> > > > the mail server, such as:
> > > >
> > > > "
> > > > X-Spam-Flag: YES
> > > > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on mail
> > > > X-Spam-Level: *****************************
> > > > "
> > > >
> > > > Any thoughts ?
> > >
> > > You can set a filter rule (note: not a search folder rule) to match a
> > > specific header, so the trick would be to match X-Spam-Flag and set the
> > > message status to Read.
> > >
> > > poc
> >
> > Hi. Thanks for that, it works, but only on Evo 2.11 . I have 2.10 in my
> > production machine, I can set it up, but it doesn't apply the filters to
> > incoming messages e.g i have to select the unread messages and apply the
> > filters.
>
> Automatic filters only apply to new messages in the Inbox. "Newness" is
> an IMAP server concept, and anything that reads a message makes it no
> longer new, so it could depend on exactly how the server-side spam
> filter works. If it's part of the MTA delivery chain it should be OK,
> but if it's done post-delivery then Evo filters will not apply. You
> should also make sure that nothing else is reading messages (include
> mail notifiers, other clients etc.)

It's part of the delivery chain (maildrop runs spam check, virus check
and delivery rule check), but spam is matched to a Spam IMAP folder
(read on).

> >  In 2.11 i can mark it as apply to all incoming, and i can run
> > filters on folder with Ctrl+Y, something that doesn't happen on 2.10.
>
> Ctrl-Y does work on 2.10, or did you mean something else?

It works with messages selected. I can't say for instance, apply to a
folder.

> > Is there some trick to enable filters on all incoming messages on 2.10 ?
>
> Only for the Inbox as far as I can see.
>
> poc

Ok, checked that, but the problem persists with my imap setup, since the
server (running spamassassin, clamav etc i.e. the whole nine yards),
places the spam in a spam folder.

Maybe this is something to be fixed in new Evo releases ? Make the
filters apply to all unread in case of IMAP, and keep the just Inbox
behavior for POP.

Thanks,

Alfredo.