Re: [Evolution] Evolution 2.12.1 not auto filtering new messages after switch to new IMAP server software

On Thu, 2007-12-06 at 20:22 +0000, Pete Biggs wrote:
I use Evolution (of various ages) with Dovecot without any problems at

OK, that is good to know Pete, thank you.


Virtually always such problems are to do with some other program
'seeing' the message, but leaving it unread, before Evolution gets it.
The 'new' status of a message in IMAP is really 'has a message arrived
since the mail box was last polled' -  it has nothing to do with if it
was read or not.  And it is a flag sent by the server to the client -
the client can not change the flag on the server, once a message has
been seen, that's it.

OK, thanks also for this description. It is strange that Evolution is
affected by this problem but not the other mail clients I might use.

Is it possible that some program somewhere (like a mail notification
applet or webmail application) is accessing the mail box?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I have not added any mail notification
applets to my Gnome desktop in Fedora 8, though I do get a message in
the system tray/notification area about new mail when Evolution polls
the IMAP server (Evolution itself is set to check every 10 minutes) -
but I thought this was generated by Evolution itself using inotify - is
this correct? I certainly haven't asked to an email applet to tell me
new mail has arrived - but I do get a flashing letter icon in the system
tray when new mail comes in, but only in Evolution. Evolution is set to
not notify me when new mail arrives (in the preferences) but that seems
to be related to flashing the screen or playing a beep - I can't see
anything about stopping the notification in the system tray.

Also, note that this also affects an older version of Evolution (on FC5)
that does not notify me in the system tray area of new mail, and was
working quite happily prior to UCL switching IMAP server software.

I will check with our systems admins as to whether other applications on
the server could be interfering?

Any other suggestions?



On Thu, 2007-12-06 at 17:58 +0000, Gavin Simpson wrote:
Dear List,

[Apologies if this comes through twice - I was not subscribed earlier so
figured my message went into a black hole somewhere]

My institution recently changed the IMAP server software on its IMAP
servers from Washington IMAP to Dovecot. As soon as this change was
completed, Evolution stopped automatically filtering new messages
arriving in my inbox into my IMAP folders.

I thought this might have been a problem in an older version of
Evolution (I was using Fedora 5 until recently) so I waited until Fedora
8 was released, installed that on my work machine and laptop and tested
to see if a newer Evolution (2.12.1) would filter the messages. In
short, the problem remains.

I should add that if I select the new messages and press Ctrl-y to
filter them, Evolution then filters the messages into the correct

I have tried Thunderbird also, and it does automatically filter new
messages into the correct mailboxes, so this is not some major problem
with the IMAP server I connect to at UCL.

I am not sure how to proceed now? Are there settings in Evolution I
should try to see if that alters the current behaviour? I have tried
downloading all IMAP headers to see if that was a problem, but that did
not change anything. I have checked that the Apply filters to new
messages in INBOX on this server option is selected - it is.

As I say, this was working fine in Evolution in Fedora 5 until UCL
switched to Dovecot, but the problem remains in Evolution 2.12.1 on
Fedora 8.

If anyone has any suggestions, I will be very pleased to hear them.

All the best and thanks in advance,


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