Re: [Evolution] Keeping states

["Patrick O'Callaghan" <poc usb ve>]

On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 11:44 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for your comments Jeff.  They're interesting.
>
> On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 21:59 -0400, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> > On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 09:22 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 15:06 +0200, guenther wrote:
> > > > * When switching folders, Evo remembers the selected mail and the
> > > >   position in the mail list. This even works after closing Evo.
> > >
> > > no it doesn't.  I know it intends to, but it doesn't do a very good job
> > > of it IMHO.  Please don't be upset by this remark, I'm just
> > > commenting :)
> >
> > actually it does, but a particular message is not always in the exact
> > same scroll position between sessions (new mail has arrived and perhaps
> > the folder is in threaded view, etc).
>
> just to be annoying, no, it doesn't always.  Sometimes it remembers the
> scroll position, but sometimes evo reverts to the "top" of the folder.
> I notice this because I'm one of those weird people who reads messages
> with the newest at the bottom.  Sometimes I leave a folder with the last
> message selected (and scrolled to), and when I come back, evo is at the
> very top of the list (ie. the oldest email).

Me too. I've always found this intensely irritating. It's exactly the
worst possible heuristic for us newest-at-the-bottom wierdos :-)

> > > I would file a bug, but the behaviour is so hard to define anyway, that
> > > what should I expect it to do in the first place?
> >
> > we know it's bugged and how it should behave...
>
> I suspected as much :)  At least its improving.
>
> > > >   Caveat: Unfortunately Evo remembers the *scroll* position only and
> > > >   will return to that position. If you get a lot of new mails in
> > > >   between, the selected mail can scroll out of the visible area of the
> > > >   list view.
> > >
> > > why?  wouldn't it make more sense to remember the specific selected
> > > email?
> >
> > it does, but we also save the scroll position because you may have
> > selected a message but then scrolled to the top/bottom/to some other
> > message and then switched folders and when you switch back, you'd expect
> > it to be in the same place (and not scrolled back to the selected
> > message).
>
> ah I see, so it not only remembers the selected message, but also the
> scroll position, which can mean the selected message header isn't
> visible in the thread list... hmm...
>
> It would be nice to have an option to forget all this
> last-message-selected and remember-scroll-position stuff, and just have
> evo always go to the very last, (or very first) message in the folder,
> no matter what.
>
> IMHO that would be easier and a better compromise for remembering state.
> However, MHO is not everyone elses!!

I'd drink to that, at least as an option.

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