Re: [Evolution] Forwarding mail with embedded images

[guenther <guenther rudersport de>]

>    (my original mail and your reply edited for length)
>
> On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 13:06 +0100, guenther wrote:
> [The part with two > > is from my original posting, GNR]

> > >    The problem with forwarding mail as an attachment is that
> > > you don't get to edit it.  This is unacceptable when dealing
> > > with personal matters and so I do not want it to be my default.
>
> > IHMO a mail is a document and may not be edited when forwarding.
> > Forwarding means, I am sending the mail as is, including the headers
> > (and thus the original author).
>
> Well, as you say, that's your opinion.  Without going into a long
> discourse on the nature of my correspondence, I just would say
> that I don't think it is the business of the system developers
> to dictate what I do and do not want to forward from one friend
> or colleague to another.

You are aware, that I filed the bug (since no one else did), aren't you?
I attached a patch to correct this and even sent the patch to this list
for your convenience.

I am currently working to get the patch in to re-establish what the
community (and in particular, you) wants. Yes, personally I don't use
anything else than Forward Attached.

Note, that this affects Evo 2.4 only. Till this is fixed, anyone is free
to apply the patch I sent.


> I very often want to forward an attachment
> without the text that came with it.  That is forbidden by your view
> of the world. [...]

Please think again about "our" view of the world. And keep the patch in
mind.

FWIW, "forwarding an attachment" actually is nothing else than sending a
new mail with that attachment. You can drag-n-drop attachments right
from the mail in your folder. This probably is even easier, since you
don't have to remove everything else. At the very least, this is a way
to accomplish what you want.


> > If you want to edit the mails content, you may just as well Reply and
> > change the recipient.
>
> Thank you, I hadn't thought of that.
>
> > > Similarly with not being able to
> > > edit a message before saving it (for example, to delete long
> > > included threads or other attachments as a previous poster
> > > requested).
> >
> > Not sure if I understand what you mean. But if you really do save a
> > mail, please note that you save a *mail*. Including headers and stuff.
> > Saving the mails contents is not saving a mail.
>
> What I meant is just what I said:  I want to be able to edit an
> incoming mail, then save.  These edits typically would consist of
> (1) deleting attachments that I already have saved in some other
> appropriate directory.  In my situation, these may be multimegabyte
> documents that I really don't need multiple copies of, (2) adding a
> note as to what action I took in response to this mail, for example,
> a phone call,

You want annotations. "Adding a note" does not need to alter the mail at
all. In fact, this has been discussed in the past, and IIRC this is a
feature planned for inclusion -- with no ETA yet, though.


> or (3) deleting inclusions of threads where I have
> already saved the original posting, (4) deleting html copies of
> information that is perfectly good as plain text.  I appreciate
> very much that this would not be legal record of what I received,
> and I would never pretend that it was.  But just what is Evo
> protecting by forbidding this kind of editing? [...]

Evo does not *forbid* this. It is not implemented.  Which is a huge
difference.

This is Open Source. Feel free to code it, if you really need it. At the
very least, file a feature request in bugzilla to keep track of it.
Feature request in here tend to be forgotten. But please, don't resort
to complaining.


> > The same goes with "removing attachments from a mail in my folder",
> > which was discussed quite often in the past. This alters the mail and
> > thus is not what the sender intended it to be.
>
> I'm interested in what I want to save on my machine.  I don't expect
> to get sued if I delete somebody's duplicate attachment.  What if I
> delete the entire mail--that is not what the sender intended it to
> be either, but I presume you are not suggesting I should have to
> save everything I receive.

This is not the same as I mentioned. You are free to delete your copy of
the mail. This does not alter the mail. Editing a mail is a different
topic than deleting. Kind of nitpicking, but there is a difference.

...guenther


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