Re: [Evolution] Does Evolution retrieve email even when it is not being run??

[Tom Guilderson <TWGuilderson cvs com>]

On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 16:40 -0500, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 14:14 -0700, Evolution List wrote:
> > Hi Raul, 
> >
> > > Approximately 2-3 evolution processes stay around running in the
> > > background after you quit: evolution-alarm-notify,
> > > evolution-data-server, and evolution-exchange-storage (if you use
> > > Connector).  I'm not sure if all of those stay around, but at least a
> > > couple do.  Running evolution-2.0 --force-shutdown is supposed to really
> > > kill everything.
> >
> > Hmm...not good.  No, not good at all.  I sure don't appreciate an
> > application doing stuff like this without anything in the documentation
> > to even suggest this.
>
> perhaps you'd like to enlighten us on how to set off calendar alarms
> without having any processes running?
>
> evolution-alarm-daemon keeps running and possibly evolution-data-server
> (I think alarm-daemon depends on this?)
>
> evolution-exchange-storage does not
>
> >   Or worse the inability to make it stop (short of
> > a logging in and logging out - though I still need to test whether it
> > actually stops even through that).  
>
> ???

That is part of the problem, logging out does not stop all of the
evolution processes (at least on Linux).  I consider this either a bug
or a design flaw (I hope it is a bug)

FYI - running evo 2.0.3 on Gentoo using enlightenment (not Gnome).

while evo was running:
-------------------------------------------------------------------
twg       7439     1  0 17:08 ?        00:00:00 /usr/libexec/gconfd-2 13
twg       7441     1  0 17:08 ?        00:00:00 
/usr/libexec/bonobo-activation-server --ac-activate --ior-output-fd=17
twg       7443     1  0 17:08 ?        00:00:00 
/usr/libexec/evolution-data-server-1.0
--oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_DataServer_InterfaceCheck
--oaf-ior-fd=21
twg       7450     1  1 17:08 ?        00:00:00 
/usr/libexec/evolution/2.0/evolution-exchange-storage
--oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_Exchange_Component_Factory:2.0
--oaf-ior-fd=23
twg       7457     1  0 17:08 ?        00:00:00 
/usr/libexec/evolution/2.0/evolution-alarm-notify
--oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_Calendar_AlarmNotify_Factory:2.0 --oaf-ior-fd=25

after shutdown:
-------------------------------------------------------------------
twg       7439     1  0 17:08 ?        00:00:00 /usr/libexec/gconfd-2 13
twg       7441     1  0 17:08 ?        00:00:00 
/usr/libexec/bonobo-activation-server --ac-activate --ior-output-fd=17
twg       7443     1  0 17:08 ?        00:00:00 
/usr/libexec/evolution-data-server-1.0
--oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_DataServer_InterfaceCheck
--oaf-ior-fd=21
twg       7457     1  0 17:08 ?        00:00:00 
/usr/libexec/evolution/2.0/evolution-alarm-notify
--oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_Calendar_AlarmNotify_Factory:2.0 --oaf-ior-fd=25

afger logout of the system:
-------------------------------------------------------------------
twg       7439     1  0 17:08 ?        00:00:00 /usr/libexec/gconfd-2 13
twg       7441     1  0 17:08 ?
00:00:00 /usr/libexec/bonobo-activation-server --ac-activate
--ior-output-fd=17
twg       7443     1  0 17:08 ?
00:00:00 /usr/libexec/evolution-data-server-1.0
--oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_DataServer_InterfaceCheck
--oaf-ior-fd=21

This is not good


Also, when I log back in and start evolution, the following warning
message comes up in a pop up window:

"""
Error while Scanning folders in "Exchange server xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxx

Could not connecto to Evolution Exchange backend process: No such file
or directory.
"""

I clik OK since it is the only option, authenticate to Exchange and go
on my merry way.  If I do an 'evolution --force-shutdown' before I log
out of X, I do not get this error message on restart.  Seems to be
related to the above processes still running in background after I log
out, but the exchange connector is not, so the IPC between data server
and connector is not there, hence warning.  

my $.02; Evolution is great, just not yet ready to replace Outlook on
the Enterprise Corporate Desktop; but it will be eventually thanks to
all those working hard developing Evolution. 

--
Tom Guilderson