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RE: [Evolution] Problems sending smtp mail in Evo 1.4.5 and 1.5.0

Not Zed --

Thanks for the info.

I managed to make the SSL problem go away by removing everything from my
/etc/hosts file as suggested in one of the posts on this list.

However, now when I send messages, the message ID field is as follows:

Message-Id: <1083807608.2430.0.camel@(null)>


Where does this value of (null) come from and I guess how can I change
it? Some of my mail gets returned to me by the mail servers of the
recepients with error message (reason: 553 5.0.0 Message-Id header line
format error)

Thanks guys!
Rade





On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 22:48, Not Zed wrote:

Note that if you have mail sitting in your outbox, it will keep track
of the setting when the mail was sent (i think).

So make sure you clear it out and send a fresh mail when the setting
changes.

On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 15:28 -0400, Rade Trimceski wrote:

Jeff --

I have tried every possible combination of settings to no avail.
Currently the SSL option is set to "Whenever possible".

Rade


        -----Original Message-----
        From: Jeffrey Stedfast [mailto:fejj ximian com] 
        Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 3:15 PM
        To: rtrimces mtu edu
        Cc: evolution lists ximian com
        Subject: RE: [Evolution] Problems sending smtp mail in Evo
        1.4.5 and 1.5.0
        
        
        On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 14:54 -0400, Rade Trimceski wrote: 
        > Jeff --
        > 
        > Thanks for the reply. According to the system administrators of the
        > email server and the directions they give online the smtp server doesn't
        > require SSL authentication when accessed from within the network but
        > _does_ require SSL authentication when accessed from outside the
        > network.
        > 
        > According to the server admins:
        >                                  port  from mtu.edu   from elsewhere
        > SMTP server name: email.mtu.edu  25    SSL optional   TLS/SSLv.3
        > required and password authentication required
        > 
        > So, if I trust what they say then the server not only supports but
        > requires SSL from outside the network. Now there is no mention of
        > another port for SSL enabled trafic, does that mean that both SSL and
        > non SSL trafic go on port 25? I'm lost, clueless and frustrated :))).
        
        yes, it means that their SMTP server presumably supports the
        STARTTLS extension and thus uses port 25 for both.
        
        Try changing your "Use SSL" option for SMTP to "Whenever
        Possible" instead of "Always" if that is what it is already
        set as. "Whenever Possible" uses STARTTLS and doesn't even
        attempt the high port.
        
        Jeff
        
        > Regards,
        > Rade
        > 
        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: Jeffrey Stedfast [mailto:fejj ximian com] 
        > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 2:28 PM
        > To: Rade Trimceski
        > Cc: evolution lists ximian com
        > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Problems sending smtp mail in Evo 1.4.5 and
        > 1.5.0
        > 
        > 
        > Sounds like from outside the network, your server doesn't support SSL
        > (eg. perhaps the high port is only accessable from within the network).
        > 
        > Jeff
        > 
        > On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 08:21 -0400, Rade Trimceski wrote: 
        > Hello all --
        > 
        > I've been working at this problem for quite some time and I can't get
        > anywhere so any help I can get will be greately appreciated.
        > 
        > My setup:
        > Redhat 9 + Evolution 1.4.5. Evolution accesses a pop3/smtp email server
        > that requires authentication and SSL support. (the email server resides
        > on
        > my university's campus).
        > 
        > Problem:
        > When I'm at school where the dhcp server recognizes my MAC address I
        > have
        > no problem sending or receiving email.
        > 
        > When I'm at any other place I cannot send an smtp message through my
        > mail
        > server but under windows using Outlook I can (so I know it's not a
        > server
        > problem). When I try to send an email off campus I get the following
        > error
        > from Evolution:
        > 
        > Error while performing operation:
        > Failed to connect to SMTP server email.mtu.edu in secure mode: server
        > does
        > not
        > appear to support SSL
        > 
        > Interestingly, if I try to send an email from offcapus location (and I
        > can't) the message is left in Outbox. Next time I'm on campus, when i
        > try
        > to send the message I get the following warning message from evolution
        > and
        > the message is sent (when I hit ok):
        > 
        > SSL Certificate check for email.mtu.edu:
        > 
        > Issuer:            OU=Secure Server Certification Authority,O="RSA Data
        > Security, Inc.",C=US
        > Subject:           CN=email.mtu.edu,OU=Distributed Computing
        > Services,O=Michigan Technological University,L=Houghton,ST=Michigan,C=US
        > Fingerprint:       93:d8:d8:f7:08:2f:6b:ed:8d:a9:5d:05:2d:4f:22:39
        > Signature:         BAD
        > 
        > Do you wish to accept?
        > 
        > ---
        > 
        > This same thing happens with Evolution 1.5.0 so I have a feeling my
        > distribution is involved in causing the problem as much as Evolution is.
        > 
        > Any help will be greatly appreciated (Cc me on reply, I'm not subscribed
        > to the list).
        > 
        > Thanks,
        > Rade
        > P.S. If there is any other useful info that I can provide I will be
        > happy
        > to do so.
        > 
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Michael Zucchi
<notzed ximian com>

Ximian Evolution and
Free Software Developer


Novell, Inc.
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