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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Evo 1.4.3: fonts for menus, folders etc. (Lonnie Borntreger)
   2. font preferences don't exist anymore ? (THUaN)
   3. Re: font preferences don't exist anymore ? (Lonnie Borntreger)
   4. Re: Evolution Default Browser (guenther)
   5. Re: Evolution Default Browser (Jeffrey Stedfast)
   6. Re: Evolution Default Browser (guenther)
   7. Re: Duplicates removal (guenther)
   8. Re: Evolution Default Browser (guenther)
   9. Re: How do I keep message list from resorting? (guenther)
  10. Re: Re: working offline / headers only / IMAP (guenther)
  11. Re: Re: working offline / headers only / IMAP (Ettore Perazzoli)
  12. Re: Re: working offline / headers only / IMAP (guenther)
  13. Re: Evo 1.4.3: fonts for menus, folders etc. (Itzchak Rehberg)
  14. Re: Evolution Default Browser (Itzchak Rehberg)
  15. Can't create calendar item (Stuart Luppescu)

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Message: 1
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evo 1.4.3: fonts for menus, folders etc.
From: Lonnie Borntreger <email borntreger com>
To: Evolution List <evolution lists ximian com>
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:46:00 -0500

On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 05:32, Itzchak Rehberg wrote:
Yes, that would be great - but when I do so, the entire KDE desktop is
gone (except the kicker) and replaced by a dark-blue background without
any icons on - I suppose this is a part of the Gnome2 desktop. No
chance: as soon as I start that gnome-settings-daemon my KDE desktop is
gone, and the only way to regain it I found out so far is to log out and
in again.

I had the same problem.  Here is how you fix it.

Install (as root) and run (as yourself) gconf-editor.  Go to
desktop->gnome->background and turn off the option to "draw_background".

Then go to apps->nautilus->preferences and unset "show_desktop".

Now all I need to figure out is how to stop gnome from hijacking my
mouse movement settings.........

Lonnie Borntreger



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Message: 2
From: THUaN <thuan gmx fr>
To: Evolution Mailing List <evolution lists ximian com>
Date: 23 Jul 2003 19:02:56 +0200
Subject: [Evolution] font preferences don't exist anymore ?


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hello,

i've checked in the tools>settings to change the fonts used in mails.
but the section disappeared. i used to do it with the evo-1.2.

what do i need to do to perfom this ?

thanks all,
luna

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<BODY>
hello, <BR>
<BR>
i've checked in the tools&gt;settings to change the fonts used in mails.
<BR>
but the section disappeared. i used to do it with the evo-1.2.<BR>
<BR>
what do i need to do to perfom this ?<BR>
<BR>
thanks all,<BR>
luna
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Message: 3
Subject: Re: [Evolution] font preferences don't exist anymore ?
From: Lonnie Borntreger <email borntreger com>
To: Evolution List <evolution lists ximian com>
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:04:01 -0500


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On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 12:02, THUaN wrote:

i've checked in the tools>settings to change the fonts used in mails.
but the section disappeared. i used to do it with the evo-1.2.


It's now under tools->settings->mail preferences

Lonnie


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  <META NAME="GENERATOR" CONTENT="GtkHTML/3.0.7">
</HEAD>
<BODY>
On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 12:02, THUaN wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>
    <FONT COLOR="#737373"><I>i've checked in the tools&gt;settings to
change the fonts used in mails. <BR>
    but the section disappeared. i used to do it with the
evo-1.2.</I></FONT>
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<BR>
It's now under tools-&gt;settings-&gt;mail preferences<BR>
<BR>
Lonnie<BR>
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Message: 4
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution Default Browser
From: guenther <guenther rudersport de>
To: Ettore Perazzoli <ettore ximian com>
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:07:16 +0200

On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 17:40, Ettore Perazzoli wrote:
On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 11:25, guenther wrote:
Well, what about at least a button to launch the capplet?

Where would the button go exactly?  I'd rather not have the clutter.

The main problem, as I see it, is with non-GNOME users...  Maybe in that
case we should auto-detect what desktop the user is running under and
launch the appropriate browser?

Nope. This would break the setting just as well as the option to set a
custom browser within Evolution (as I mentioned).

Evolution will not necessarily be the only app that launches URI. Shall
Evo behave different from other Gnome apps then?


A handy solution would simply be, to give the users the option to set
the default Gnome browser as a shortcut from within Evolution. At least
that's the place most users are looking for it...


(However, I don't know how hard it is for a GNOME app to figure out e.g.
what browser KDE is configured to use.  If we can just launch an
executable that Does The Right Thing then it's trivial to do.)

Gnome completely changed the settings between 1.x and 2.x. What, if KDE
will do the same for 4.x version?


Apart from that: IIRC most questions are by Gnome users asking how to
change that. Thus *no* automatic approach based on the desktop would do
it -- unless it automagically knows weather to launch Mozilla, Galeaon,
Opera, Konqueror, lynx, ...


Yeah, the freedesktop.org approach would be good -- if they only would
hurry up...

...guenther


--
char
*t="\10pse\0r\0dtu\0  ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4";
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i<l;i++){ i%8?
c<<=1:
(c=*++x); c&128 && (s+=h); if (!(h>>=1)||!t[s+h]){
putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}


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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 13:11:06 -0400
From: Jeffrey Stedfast <fejj ximian com>
To: rfoster columco com
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution Default Browser

it would be too much work for our small development group. in fact, it'd
probably require a complete rewrite to make a KDE version. Just not
worth the effort.

of course, that doesn't mean someone couldn't do it in their own spare
time... (evo is GPL afterall)

Jeff

rfoster columco com wrote:

<Heresy>

How about a KDE version?

</Heresy>

name withheld to protect the innocent

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Message: 6
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution Default Browser
From: guenther <guenther rudersport de>
To: Itzchak Rehberg <izzysoft qumran org>
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:18:26 +0200


The latter especially applies to those using Evo with KDE3. They a) had
to install Gnome2 CC just for some little changes for Evo, and sometimes
those changes don't even work (see previous postings from me concerning
font problems).

Hey, don't say this unless you have set the DPI values. ;)

I *know* that was the issue for a friend of my -- and your symptoms
regarding fonts sound very familiar...

...guenther


--
char
*t="\10pse\0r\0dtu\0  ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4";
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i<l;i++){ i%8?
c<<=1:
(c=*++x); c&128 && (s+=h); if (!(h>>=1)||!t[s+h]){
putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}


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Message: 7
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Duplicates removal
From: guenther <guenther rudersport de>
To: "Denis O. Mikhalkin" <dom sparc spb su>
Cc: Jeffrey Stedfast <fejj ximian com>, evolution lists ximian com
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:26:01 +0200


Thoughts:
- surely it shouldn't be automatic, manual, with short-cut.

- the algorithm should be working that way so it doesn't delete
different messages. But if he misses some duplicates it is ok. It might
be based on headers I think, no body comparision is needed. If header is
changed - ok, we miss some duplicates.

- there is already successul implementation used by big number of users,
TheBat, which has "Kill Duplicates" action on folder. May be you can
just "import" the algorithm from it? It is described in its help system
in details. I was using it for a long time and I was satisfied on its
success/miss ratio.

Which of the duplicates are to be kept??

For example: The one in my Inbox or the one in my archives?

...guenther


--
char
*t="\10pse\0r\0dtu\0  ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4";
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i<l;i++){ i%8?
c<<=1:
(c=*++x); c&128 && (s+=h); if (!(h>>=1)||!t[s+h]){
putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}


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Message: 8
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution Default Browser
From: guenther <guenther rudersport de>
To: rfoster columco com
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:32:34 +0200


How about a KDE version?

A KDE version of *what* wrt the subject?

...guenther


--
char
*t="\10pse\0r\0dtu\0  ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4";
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i<l;i++){ i%8?
c<<=1:
(c=*++x); c&128 && (s+=h); if (!(h>>=1)||!t[s+h]){
putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}


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Message: 9
Subject: Re: [Evolution] How do I keep message list from resorting?
From: guenther <guenther rudersport de>
To: s-luppescu uchicago edu
Cc: Evolution list <evolution ximian com>
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:36:25 +0200


I looked in
~/evolution/config.xmldb, but I could find anything special about the
one folder that still resorts.

As you already have that behavior back again, just a note:

config.xmldb isn't used at all since 1.3.x. It's only still there in
case of a downgrade.

...guenther


--
char
*t="\10pse\0r\0dtu\0  ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4";
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i<l;i++){ i%8?
c<<=1:
(c=*++x); c&128 && (s+=h); if (!(h>>=1)||!t[s+h]){
putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}


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Message: 10
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Re: working offline / headers only / IMAP
From: guenther <guenther rudersport de>
To: Ettore Perazzoli <ettore ximian com>
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 20:29:54 +0200


This is definitely something I would find useful, if you could put it
on
to the "To Do" list for the next release.

For 2.0 we are should probably change the offline behavior so that it
starts caching all the messages in the background when you connect so
you have a copy of all messages at all times.  Michael also had some
neat ideas about providing configurable filters to decide what gets
cached...

Sounds like a perfect match for the IMAP rewrite.

And wasn't IMAP rewrite scheduled for 1.6? Or was it delayed again?


This was mentioned either here or on the hackers list (I forget which
right now).

Hackers, apparently... ;)

...guenther


--
char
*t="\10pse\0r\0dtu\0  ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4";
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i<l;i++){ i%8?
c<<=1:
(c=*++x); c&128 && (s+=h); if (!(h>>=1)||!t[s+h]){
putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}


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Message: 11
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Re: working offline / headers only / IMAP
From: Ettore Perazzoli <ettore ximian com>
To: guenther <guenther rudersport de>
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Date: 23 Jul 2003 15:04:33 -0400

On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 14:29, guenther wrote:
For 2.0 we are should probably change the offline behavior so that it
starts caching all the messages in the background when you connect so
you have a copy of all messages at all times.  Michael also had some
neat ideas about providing configurable filters to decide what gets
cached...

Sounds like a perfect match for the IMAP rewrite.

Actually, Michael mentioned that this is doable with the current IMAP
implementation.

And wasn't IMAP rewrite scheduled for 1.6? Or was it delayed again?

I think we are just skipping 1.6 as a version number.  :-)

I don't know how much of the IMAP stuff we can do for 2.0.  Since it
seems a sizeable chunk of work and we are resource-limited it sounds
like the best approach would be to develop this in parallel with 2.0 but
not make it a blocker for 2.0.

-- Ettore

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Message: 12
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Re: working offline / headers only / IMAP
From: guenther <guenther rudersport de>
To: Ettore Perazzoli <ettore ximian com>
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 21:23:23 +0200

On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 21:04, Ettore Perazzoli wrote:
On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 14:29, guenther wrote:
For 2.0 we are should probably change the offline behavior so that
it
starts caching all the messages in the background when you connect
so
you have a copy of all messages at all times.  Michael also had some
neat ideas about providing configurable filters to decide what gets
cached...

Sounds like a perfect match for the IMAP rewrite.

Actually, Michael mentioned that this is doable with the current IMAP
implementation.

yep, right


And wasn't IMAP rewrite scheduled for 1.6? Or was it delayed again?

I think we are just skipping 1.6 as a version number.  :-)

I don't know how much of the IMAP stuff we can do for 2.0.  Since it
seems a sizeable chunk of work and we are resource-limited it sounds
like the best approach would be to develop this in parallel with 2.0 but
not make it a blocker for 2.0.

Well, if you would ask me (as if I don't know you won't ask me), finish
1.6 ASAP and let 2.0 brew a little bit. And have that IMAP rewrite high
priority for 1.6 anyway.

<comment type="insider">
 Seems, I'm feeling argumentative today, too.
</comment>

...guenther


--
char
*t="\10pse\0r\0dtu\0  ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4";
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i<l;i++){ i%8?
c<<=1:
(c=*++x); c&128 && (s+=h); if (!(h>>=1)||!t[s+h]){
putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}


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Message: 13
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evo 1.4.3: fonts for menus, folders etc.
From: Itzchak Rehberg <izzysoft qumran org>
To: Lonnie Borntreger <email borntreger com>
Cc: Evolution List <evolution lists ximian com>
Date: 23 Jul 2003 21:44:04 +0200

Yes, that would be great - but when I do so, the entire KDE desktop is
gone (except the kicker) and replaced by a dark-blue background
without
any icons on - I suppose this is a part of the Gnome2 desktop. No
chance: as soon as I start that gnome-settings-daemon my KDE desktop
is
gone, and the only way to regain it I found out so far is to log out
and
in again.
I had the same problem.  Here is how you fix it.
Install (as root) and run (as yourself) gconf-editor.  Go to
desktop->gnome->background and turn off the option to "draw_background".

Thanx - found an un-checked.

Then go to apps->nautilus->preferences and unset "show_desktop".

No such setting.

Does this also fix the problem with fonts being completely messed up?
There was no point on this (as I wrote in another posting: any app
started after the gnome-settings-daemon, regardless of KDE app or Gnome
app, has the fonts completely "replaced" by a single dot per line).

Now all I need to figure out is how to stop gnome from hijacking my
mouse movement settings.........

Humm - my mouse was not affected by weird behaviour...

Izzy.

--
Itzchak Rehberg
http://www.qumran.org/homes/izzy/
http://www.izzysoft.de/
"We have joy, we have fun, we boot Linux on our SUN..."


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Message: 14
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution Default Browser
From: Itzchak Rehberg <izzysoft qumran org>
To: guenther <guenther rudersport de>
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Date: 23 Jul 2003 21:47:22 +0200

The latter especially applies to those using Evo with KDE3. They a)
had
to install Gnome2 CC just for some little changes for Evo, and
sometimes
those changes don't even work (see previous postings from me
concerning
font problems).
Hey, don't say this unless you have set the DPI values. ;)

Yeah, if someone could tell me how to find out about this, I certainly
check it!

I *know* that was the issue for a friend of my -- and your symptoms
regarding fonts sound very familiar...

So do you know what he did to solve it? That would be *VERY* helpful to
me!!

Thankx in advance
Izzy

--
Itzchak Rehberg
http://www.qumran.org/homes/izzy/
http://www.izzysoft.de/
"We have joy, we have fun, we boot Linux on our SUN..."


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Message: 15
From: Stuart Luppescu <s-luppescu uchicago edu>
Reply-To: s-luppescu uchicago edu
To: Evolution list <evolution ximian com>
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: 23 Jul 2003 14:56:20 -0500
Subject: [Evolution] Can't create calendar item


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Every time I try to save a new calendar entry I get this message:
Validation error: End time is wrong

I don't see anything wrong with the end time. It even happens when I use
the default start and end times (9:00 and 9:30). Can anyone tell me
what's going on?=20
--=20
Stuart Luppescu -=3D- s-luppescu .at. uchicago.edu       =20
University of Chicago -=3D- CCSR=20
=1B$B:MJ8$HCRF`H~$NIc=1B(B -=3D-    Kernel 2.4.20-xfs-r3               =20
You are an insult to my intelligence!  I demand
 that you log off immediately.=20
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