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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Evolution Default Browser (guenther)
   2. Any way to export contacts? (Ian Perryman)
   3. Re: Evo 1.4.3: fonts for menus, folders etc. (Lonnie Borntreger)
   4. Re: Evo 1.4.3: fonts for menus, folders etc. (Lonnie Borntreger)
   5. Re: Evolution Default Browser (Itzchak Rehberg)
   6. Re: to alarm or not to alarm (was: Re: [Evolution] Completely
       unload Evolution from memory.) (guenther)
   7. Re: Evo 1.4.3: fonts for menus, folders etc. (Itzchak Rehberg)
   8. Re: "we were unable to open this addressbook" with 1.4 (Chris

Toshok)

   9. Re: Evo 1.4.3: fonts for menus, folders etc. (Itzchak Rehberg)
  10. Re: Evolution Default Browser (guenther)
  11. Re: Evo 1.4.3: fonts for menus, folders etc. (Lonnie Borntreger)
  12. Re: Starting evolution-1.4 problem (Mark Gordon)

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Message: 1
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution Default Browser
From: guenther <guenther rudersport de>
To: Itzchak Rehberg <izzysoft qumran org>
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 22:06:37 +0200



Hey, don't say this unless you have set the DPI values. ;)


Yeah, if someone could tell me how to find out about this, I certainly
check it!


I told you, what the culprit likely is. I told you, how to set thze DPI
value in Gnome. I told you, you have to check out the DPI value for KDE
on your own, cause I do *not* use KDE.

What do you need?



I *know* that was the issue for a friend of my -- and your symptoms
regarding fonts sound very familiar...


So do you know what he did to solve it? That would be *VERY* helpful to
me!!


Running 'gnome-session-daemon' from the KDE autostart and setting *both*
DPI settings to the same value. That perfectly solved the different font
sizes for him.

But I already posted this information, too.

...guenther


--
char

*t="\10pse\0r\0dtu\0  ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4";

main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i<l;i++){ i%8?

c<<=1:

(c=*++x); c&128 && (s+=h); if (!(h>>=1)||!t[s+h]){

putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}



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Message: 2
From: Ian Perryman <iperryma altera com>
To: evolution <evolution lists ximian com>
Date: 23 Jul 2003 16:13:50 -0400
Subject: [Evolution] Any way to export contacts?


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Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Is there a way to export the contacts list to an .ldif file?  Importing
seems to work just fine.

I am using evolution 1.4.3 on RH8.0.

Ian

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Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 TRANSITIONAL//EN">
<HTML>
<HEAD>
  <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; CHARSET=UTF-8">
  <META NAME="GENERATOR" CONTENT="GtkHTML/3.0.7">
</HEAD>
<BODY>
Is there a way to export the contacts list to an .ldif file?&nbsp;

Importing seems to work just fine.&nbsp; <BR>

<BR>
I am using evolution 1.4.3 on RH8.0.&nbsp; <BR>
<BR>
Ian
</BODY>
</HTML>

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Message: 3
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evo 1.4.3: fonts for menus, folders etc.
From: Lonnie Borntreger <email borntreger com>
To: Evolution List <evolution lists ximian com>
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 15:17:54 -0500

On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 14:44, Itzchak Rehberg wrote:

Then go to apps->nautilus->preferences and unset "show_desktop".


No such setting.


Odd.  Don't look into the sub-folders of preferences, it is in that top
folder.


Does this also fix the problem with fonts being completely messed up?
There was no point on this (as I wrote in another posting: any app
started after the gnome-settings-daemon, regardless of KDE app or Gnome
app, has the fonts completely "replaced" by a single dot per line).


Nope.  After I login, I manually run gnome-font-settings.  This allows
you to pick fonts for Gnome apps.  It never has to be reset (font
selection that is), but I use it now as a quick and easy way to get the
gnome-settings-daemon to start.


Now all I need to figure out is how to stop gnome from hijacking my
mouse movement settings.........


Humm - my mouse was not affected by weird behaviour...


I've modified my mouse speed in KDE the default X setting is WAY too
slow for me.  The gnome-settings-daemon sets it back to "default"
values.  So, I have to go into KDE system settings and re-apply my
changes.  This only happens to me once per login.  Luckily, I hardly
ever logout.  I suppose I could try to get the gnome mouse settings to
match, then it wouldn't be an issue.  In fact, I think I'll go do that
now......

Lonnie



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Message: 4
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evo 1.4.3: fonts for menus, folders etc.
From: Lonnie Borntreger <email borntreger com>
To: Evolution List <evolution lists ximian com>
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 15:27:27 -0500

Oh, you'll want to go to apps->gnome_settings_daemon and uncheck
start_screensaver so it doesn't override your KDE settings.

On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 15:17, Lonnie Borntreger wrote:

On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 14:44, Itzchak Rehberg wrote:

Then go to apps->nautilus->preferences and unset "show_desktop".


No such setting.


Odd.  Don't look into the sub-folders of preferences, it is in that top
folder.


Does this also fix the problem with fonts being completely messed up?
There was no point on this (as I wrote in another posting: any app
started after the gnome-settings-daemon, regardless of KDE app or

Gnome

app, has the fonts completely "replaced" by a single dot per line).


Nope.  After I login, I manually run gnome-font-settings.  This allows
you to pick fonts for Gnome apps.  It never has to be reset (font
selection that is), but I use it now as a quick and easy way to get the
gnome-settings-daemon to start.


Now all I need to figure out is how to stop gnome from hijacking my
mouse movement settings.........


Humm - my mouse was not affected by weird behaviour...


I've modified my mouse speed in KDE the default X setting is WAY too
slow for me.  The gnome-settings-daemon sets it back to "default"
values.  So, I have to go into KDE system settings and re-apply my
changes.  This only happens to me once per login.  Luckily, I hardly
ever logout.  I suppose I could try to get the gnome mouse settings to
match, then it wouldn't be an issue.  In fact, I think I'll go do that
now......

Lonnie


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Message: 5
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution Default Browser
From: Itzchak Rehberg <izzysoft qumran org>
To: guenther <guenther rudersport de>
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Date: 23 Jul 2003 22:36:23 +0200


Hey, don't say this unless you have set the DPI values. ;)

Yeah, if someone could tell me how to find out about this, I certainly
check it!

I told you, what the culprit likely is.


Yes, you did that.


I told you, how to set thze DPI value in Gnome.


THAT mail did not arrive here - or I missed it. Just checked all mails
from you again, could not find this.


I told you, you have to check out the DPI value for KDE
on your own, cause I do *not* use KDE.


That was missing, too - but expected :-) I'm pretty sure KDE uses 75 dpi
(I *ever* used that for years now), and AFAIR X11 is set up such, so it
has to be. I just could not figure out how to tell Gnome2, even not with
gconf-edit...


Running 'gnome-session-daemon' from the KDE autostart and setting *both*
DPI settings to the same value. That perfectly solved the different font
sizes for him.


Here the gnome-settings-daemon messes all fonts up completely. But that,
again, may be caused by being confused with different DPI settings.


But I already posted this information, too.


Must have been the same mail as with the location of the DPI settings...
Sorry, but I must have missed it, s.a.

Thank you for your patience...
Izzy.

--
Itzchak Rehberg
http://www.qumran.org/homes/izzy/
http://www.izzysoft.de/
"We have joy, we have fun, we boot Linux on our SUN..."


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Message: 6
Subject: Re: to alarm or not to alarm (was: Re: [Evolution] Completely
unload Evolution from memory.)
From: guenther <guenther rudersport de>
To: Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo ximian com>
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 22:36:59 +0200



I just wondered (nope, not using alarm normally):

As these processes have to be running for notifying the user,

shouldn't

they be launched on login?

As they are not running on login, the user will not be notified

unless

he actually runs Evolution -- at least for a short time.


if you start evolution on a GNOME session, when closing the session,

the

list of running programs is saved, so the alarm daemon should be

started

if it was running when the session was ended.


Well, as I said, I am just wondering. I don't use alarms ATM.

Neither did I ever save my session when logging out. I only manually
added gkrellm to the session to start on login. I don't like
automatically recreating all running apps and I even close my apps
before logging out...


I also close all my apps before logging out, but I don't kill the other
processes, so this saves any daemon/component that is running for the
next session.


I don't kill any process either. I just never *saved* a session.

That means, alarm notification will not work as expected before starting
Evolution -- unless the user has actually saved a session with
evolution-alarm-notify running.

This is not mentioned anywhere IMHO -- but it should. Or the alarm
daemon has to be added by Evolution.

...guenther


--
char

*t="\10pse\0r\0dtu\0  ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4";

main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i<l;i++){ i%8?

c<<=1:

(c=*++x); c&128 && (s+=h); if (!(h>>=1)||!t[s+h]){

putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}



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Message: 7
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evo 1.4.3: fonts for menus, folders etc.
From: Itzchak Rehberg <izzysoft qumran org>
To: Lonnie Borntreger <email borntreger com>
Cc: Evolution List <evolution lists ximian com>
Date: 23 Jul 2003 22:39:12 +0200


Oh, you'll want to go to apps->gnome_settings_daemon and uncheck
start_screensaver so it doesn't override your KDE settings.


You may say "odd" again: but there's no gnome-settings-daemon in apps...
As long as we're still talking about the gconf-edit.

Izzy.

--
Itzchak Rehberg
http://www.qumran.org/homes/izzy/
http://www.izzysoft.de/
"We have joy, we have fun, we boot Linux on our SUN..."


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Message: 8
Subject: Re: [Evolution] "we were unable to open this addressbook" with

1.4

From: Chris Toshok <toshok ximian com>
To: "Mr. Mailing List" <mailinglistaddie yahoo com>
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 13:40:42 -0700

Hm, did you shutdown evolution and kill wombat after doing the change?

The addressbook unfortunately *does* store the path in 1 place, but it
shouldn't be affecting you if you're just clicking on the folder.  The
completion list stores the full path iirc, so you'll have to remove the
folders there and re-add them.

Chris

On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 21:07, Mr. Mailing List wrote:

I've had 1.4 for some time now, and recently changed
my main user's name to david.

i changed all the perms and stuff to be under david,
but i can no longer access my evolution contacts, even
though i can clearly see them in
/home/david/evolution/local/Contacts/addressbook.db

-rw-rw-r--    1 david    david         40K Jul 22
23:00 addressbook.db

i can edit it with text editor and it looks like it's
ok, but i get this error now
"we were unable to open this addressbook"
and so on

please help me?

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Message: 9
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evo 1.4.3: fonts for menus, folders etc.
From: Itzchak Rehberg <izzysoft qumran org>
To: Lonnie Borntreger <email borntreger com>
Cc: Evolution List <evolution lists ximian com>
Date: 23 Jul 2003 22:46:11 +0200


There are no more subfolders here. Just nautilus (empty), below that
preferences (just holding the desktop fonts).

Do you have nautilus installed?  Maybe it's a version thing, or a
leftover from an older version.


I would never install nautilus as long as I'm not forced to - all my
Linux-life that nautilus only messed up my KDE desktop (that's why my
first look on a messed-up desktop after some Gnome-app-start is "ps
aux|grep nautilus" :-)


Yepp, but all Appz started after that have no fonts anymore...

Real odd.  That seems to point to a font server or locale issue.  Did
you try choosing different fonts?  Changing fonts in gnome-font-settings
has an immediate impact on running gnome apps, so make a font change,
apply it, and see what happens..... go through the font list and see if
any work.


Yes, they all work great - as long as the app was started *prior* to the
gnome-settings-daemon:

1) start Evo. All okay, but fonts too big.
2) start gnome-font-settings and apply font changes. Looks fine in Evo.
3) exit gnome-font-settings. KDE desktop is already gone.
4) start gnome-font-settings again (or some other X-App).
   All text is converted into one dot per line, nothing readable.
5) exit all appz, log out, log in.
6) goto 1)

I could also write that as "Loop forever"... The first time called it
works, second call (or: as soon as gnome-settings-daemon was running
once), it's gone...

Izzy.

--
Itzchak Rehberg
http://www.qumran.org/homes/izzy/
http://www.izzysoft.de/
"We have joy, we have fun, we boot Linux on our SUN..."


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Message: 10
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution Default Browser
From: guenther <guenther rudersport de>
To: Itzchak Rehberg <izzysoft qumran org>
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 22:49:21 +0200



Hey, don't say this unless you have set the DPI values. ;)

Yeah, if someone could tell me how to find out about this, I

certainly

check it!

I told you, what the culprit likely is.


Yes, you did that.


I told you, how to set thze DPI value in Gnome.


THAT mail did not arrive here - or I missed it. Just checked all mails
from you again, could not find this.


Well, I saw it in the list -- and it was also sent to you personal. ;)


--- snipp --

For Gnome, you can adjust the DPI value with the same app you set the
default fonts. Click the "Details" button to change the Resolution.

$ gnome-font-properties


Dunno where to set this in KDE -- I do not use KDE... ;)

--- snipp --



I told you, you have to check out the DPI value for KDE
on your own, cause I do *not* use KDE.


That was missing, too - but expected :-) I'm pretty sure KDE uses 75 dpi
(I *ever* used that for years now), and AFAIR X11 is set up such, so it
has to be. I just could not figure out how to tell Gnome2, even not with
gconf-edit...


Running 'gnome-session-daemon' from the KDE autostart and setting

*both*

DPI settings to the same value. That perfectly solved the different

font

sizes for him.


Here the gnome-settings-daemon messes all fonts up completely. But that,
again, may be caused by being confused with different DPI settings.


Likely -- but I may be wrong.



But I already posted this information, too.


Must have been the same mail as with the location of the DPI settings...
Sorry, but I must have missed it, s.a.


Yep, it was. Hope, this will solve it for you. Maybe you wanna just
start playing with the Gnome DPI settings until they match.

For a perfect match, make sure Gnome and KDE are even using the same
fonts.

...guenther


--
char

*t="\10pse\0r\0dtu\0  ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4";

main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i<l;i++){ i%8?

c<<=1:

(c=*++x); c&128 && (s+=h); if (!(h>>=1)||!t[s+h]){

putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}



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Message: 11
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evo 1.4.3: fonts for menus, folders etc.
From: Lonnie Borntreger <email borntreger com>
To: Itzchak Rehberg <izzysoft qumran org>
Cc: Evolution List <evolution lists ximian com>
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 16:01:36 -0500

On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 15:46, Itzchak Rehberg wrote:

Yes, they all work great - as long as the app was started *prior* to the
gnome-settings-daemon:

1) start Evo. All okay, but fonts too big.
2) start gnome-font-settings and apply font changes. Looks fine in Evo.
3) exit gnome-font-settings. KDE desktop is already gone.
4) start gnome-font-settings again (or some other X-App).
   All text is converted into one dot per line, nothing readable.
5) exit all appz, log out, log in.
6) goto 1)

I could also write that as "Loop forever"... The first time called it
works, second call (or: as soon as gnome-settings-daemon was running
once), it's gone...


OK.  I'm at a loss.  After clearing the option to have the desktop
drawn, I've had no problems.  You must have some package not installed
correctly.  Maybe you need to install nautilus (clear the draw desktop
option and you should be OK).  Can't hurt at this point, you can always
un-install it later.

Don't know.  I suffered through this (the background issue), until I
found gconf-editor, and have had no problems since.

I wish you luck.

Lonnie



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Message: 12
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Starting evolution-1.4 problem
From: Mark Gordon <mtgordon ximian com>
To: guenther <guenther rudersport de>
Cc: Stephen Liu <satimis icare com hk>, evolution lists ximian com
Organization: Ximian, Inc.
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:29:11 -0400

On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 08:00, guenther wrote:

Just upgrade evolution-1.2 to evolution-1.4.  Each time on starting
evolution-1.4 following warning pop-up

"This copy of Ximian Connector has not been activated"

Kindly advise how to fix it.


If you do not need Connector, just uninstall it again. Easiest done
using Red-Carpet.

I do not know OTH how they are called, but IIRC the following command
should show you those packages (should be packaged by Ximian):

$ rpm -qa | grep connector

...guenther


rpm -e ximian-connector

Given that there's only one vendor, there isn't a great variety in names
for that package.

-Mark Gordon



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