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Today's Topics:
1. IMAP - compatibility problems (Michael Agbaglo)
2. Re: IMAP - compatibility problems (Jeffrey Stedfast)
3. Re: IMAP - compatibility problems (guenther)
4. Re: Evolution, Connector and pilot conduits (Thomas Maeder)
5. Re: Evolution, Connector and pilot conduits (Jack Coates)
6. Re: Evolution, Connector and pilot conduits (Richard Bellavance)
7. excessive HD access when resizing columns (Michael Agbaglo)
8. Folder shared between users? (Mikhail Ramendik)
9. Calendar bug? (Trey Sizemore)
10. Re: Evolution 1.2.4 crashes in different cases (Frank Becker)
11. Re: Calendar bug? (Mark Gordon)
12. Re: Folder shared between users? (guenther)
13. Re: Calendar bug? (Trey Sizemore)
14. Re: Calendar bug? (Mark Gordon)
15. Re: Evolution 1.2.4 crashes in different cases (Frank Becker)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 17:15:14 +0200
From: Michael Agbaglo <byteshifter shifted-bytes de>
To: evolution lists ximian com
Subject: [Evolution] IMAP - compatibility problems
Hi !
I'm using evolution on my linux machines and - because it doesn't run
on windows - netscape. Evolution 1.2 accessed my IMAP server quickly,
but Evo 1.4 seems to be taking a nap in between. Problem #2 is that the
directory where my mail folders are residing is displayed.
Netscape:
Inbox
Send
Trash
folder1
folder2
....
Evo:
Inbox
[-]Mail
|-folder1
|-folder2
Trash
Problem 3: The Trash thing is still not fixed. There's a trash folder on
my IMAP server. How can I make Evo handling it like the sent folder ? I
don't want this virtual folder crap.
M.
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Message: 2
Subject: Re: [Evolution] IMAP - compatibility problems
From: Jeffrey Stedfast <fejj ximian com>
To: Michael Agbaglo <byteshifter shifted-bytes de>
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 12:09:02 -0400
On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 11:15, Michael Agbaglo wrote:
Hi !
I'm using evolution on my linux machines and - because it doesn't run
on windows - netscape. Evolution 1.2 accessed my IMAP server quickly,
but Evo 1.4 seems to be taking a nap in between.
I have no idea what to say here... the imap code in 1.2 and 1.4 is
basically identical. All the network stuff is, at the very least. The
only changes have been bug fixes. So if it is slower, I have no idea how
or why that would be. I can say that it doesn't feel any slower to me...
Problem #2 is that the
directory where my mail folders are residing is displayed.
Netscape:
Inbox
Send
Trash
folder1
folder2
....
Evo:
Inbox
[-]Mail
|-folder1
|-folder2
Trash
the evo folder tree is the correct way to display the hierarchy. folder1
is NOT on the same level as INBOX, so it shouldn't be displayed at the
same level. To do so would be a bug.
Problem 3: The Trash thing is still not fixed. There's a trash folder on
my IMAP server. How can I make Evo handling it like the sent folder ? I
don't want this virtual folder crap.
you can't... yet.
Jeff
--
Jeffrey Stedfast
Evolution Hacker - Ximian, Inc.
fejj ximian com - www.ximian.com
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Message: 3
Subject: Re: [Evolution] IMAP - compatibility problems
From: guenther <guenther rudersport de>
To: Michael Agbaglo <byteshifter shifted-bytes de>
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Date: 03 Jul 2003 18:34:55 +0200
I'm using evolution on my linux machines and - because it doesn't run
on windows - netscape. Evolution 1.2 accessed my IMAP server quickly,
but Evo 1.4 seems to be taking a nap in between.
I have no idea what to say here... the imap code in 1.2 and 1.4 is
basically identical. All the network stuff is, at the very least. The
only changes have been bug fixes. So if it is slower, I have no idea how
or why that would be. I can say that it doesn't feel any slower to me...
Don't see any slowdowns either.
Problem #2 is that the
directory where my mail folders are residing is displayed.
[...]
the evo folder tree is the correct way to display the hierarchy. folder1
is NOT on the same level as INBOX, so it shouldn't be displayed at the
same level. To do so would be a bug.
Problem 3: The Trash thing is still not fixed. There's a trash folder
on
my IMAP server. How can I make Evo handling it like the sent folder ?
I
don't want this virtual folder crap.
you can't... yet.
I recently posted some more infos on trash folders:
http://lists.ximian.com/archives/public/evolution/2003-June/030310.html
Comments about this wish go here:
http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6061
...guenther
--
char
*t="\10pse\0r\0dtu\0 ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4";
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i<l;i++){ i%8?
c<<=1:
(c=*++x); c&128 && (s+=h); if (!(h>>=1)||!t[s+h]){
putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}
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Message: 4
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution, Connector and pilot conduits
From: Thomas Maeder <maeder+evolution glue ch>
To: evolution lists ximian com
Date: 03 Jul 2003 19:40:24 +0200
Am Don, 2003-07-03 um 11.38 schrieb Nigel Metheringham:
Is anyone else using Evolution 1.4 with connector and a palm PDA?
Probably :-)
Personally, I am just using Evolution 1.4 with a Palm PDA (no
connector).
I'm finding that the evolution conduits are causing massive duplication
of any touched item in a way that does not happen against standard evo
contacts/calendar/todo list.
Same thing here; it seems not to be a Connector issue.
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Message: 5
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution, Connector and pilot conduits
From: Jack Coates <jack monkeynoodle org>
To: evolution lists ximian com
Organization: Monkeynoodle.Org
Date: 03 Jul 2003 10:51:55 -0700
On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 02:38, Nigel Metheringham wrote:
Is anyone else using Evolution 1.4 with connector and a palm PDA?
I'm finding that the evolution conduits are causing massive duplication
of any touched item in a way that does not happen against standard evo
contacts/calendar/todo list.
In particular any item deleted from either palm or exchange does not get
deleted from the other side on sync, and if an appointment (for example)
is modified on either side you end up with both the original and
modified version after sync.
Nigel.
This is probably not what you want to hear, but:
In all honesty, switching to Linux on the desktop finally meant not
using a PDA. I find that PDAs work fine if you stick to pilot-link and
JPilot, but synchronization with Evolution is fraught with difficulty
and breaks with every change of software or hardware. The two-step from
Evo to jpilot isn't acceptable, so I gave up. At its best (evo and pilot
communicating reliably on the first try), I have still had the
duplication problems you mention. There is a dedupe program in the
pilot-link distribution that will kill the duplicates on the palm
device, but of course that only solves half the problem.
Additionally, "upgrading" from my trusty Palm V to a pretty Sony Clie
turned out to be a bad idea -- the Clie was a lot more fragile, and
replacing a broken screen quickly made me a little more reticent to
carry the PDA. Since the Palm V doesn't synchronize reliably through a
USB-to-serial connector and its internal battery is starting to go out
any way, both PDAs just gather dust in a drawer. On days when I'm going
out of the office, I just scribble down the times and bridge numbers /
addresses on a piece of paper and stick that in my pocket. Terribly
old-fashioned, but frankly easier to manage in the car any way :-)
I've been working with this stuff since the Palm III and have tried
source compilations, Ximian RPMs, and Mandrake RPMs of every component
through the releases of the last two years up to about March of this
year. I've been on the gnome-pilot and pilot-link mailing lists and have
bothered the developers directly. It's just not worth it any more.
--
Jack Coates
Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture...
http://www.monkeynoodle.org/resume.html
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Message: 6
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution, Connector and pilot conduits
From: Richard Bellavance <richard bellavance enter-net com>
To: evolution lists ximian com
Organization: Enter-Net inc.
Date: 03 Jul 2003 14:05:30 -0400
On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 13:51, Jack Coates wrote:
This is probably not what you want to hear, but:
In all honesty, switching to Linux on the desktop finally meant not
using a PDA. [...]
I have been syncing my Palm Vx with Evo for over 2 years now, and the
only time I've had any duplication was when I reinstalled my Linux (to
upgrade to a new version) and upgraded Evolution, importing the previous
Evo's stuff in the new one and *then* resyncing the Palm. If I'd
thought about things a bit, I'd have expected the dupes from this...
No other problem apart a gpilotd hanging from time to time when I was
still on RedHat 6.2. Everything peachy since I moved to RH 7.3.
--
Richard Bellavance CGI
Analyste-Programmeur Principal
T.: 514-415-3000 #5463 1350, boul. René-Lévesque Ouest
F.: 514-415-3972 Montréal, Qc, H3G 1T4, CANADA
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Message: 7
From: Michael Agbaglo <byteshifter shifted-bytes de>
To: evolution lists ximian com
Date: 03 Jul 2003 20:18:19 +0200
Subject: [Evolution] excessive HD access when resizing columns
Hi !
There's a reproduceable phenomenon which occurs e.g. when I resize the
subject column in the Mail view. When the mouse cursor turns into <-->
and I hold down the left mouse button, the HD activity increases
significantly until the button is released.
M.
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Message: 8
From: Mikhail Ramendik <mr ramendik ru>
To: evolution lists ximian com
Organization:
Date: 04 Jul 2003 00:21:06 +0400
Subject: [Evolution] Folder shared between users?
Hello!
I would like to set up a local folder shared between two users on the
same machine.
The reason is allowing both of them to check the same mailbox and keep
the mail from it in one location.
I can think of one way to do it, but it's somewhat strange (letting Evo
create the folder for each of the users, then replace both folders with
symlinks to the actual folder). But this seems like a rather strange
workaround. Perhaps a cleaner way is available?
Yours, Mikhail Ramendik
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Message: 9
From: Trey Sizemore <trey fastmail fm>
To: evolution lists ximian com
Date: 03 Jul 2003 18:02:33 -0400
Subject: [Evolution] Calendar bug?
Did not receive a response to this last time so reposting:
I could not find an entry for this in Bugzilla (if there is one already
and I missed it somehow, please let me know where it is). I think this
may have been discussed on this list within the past week, but can no
longer find the thread to see what the outcome is/was.
I have noticed in Evo 1.4 (I have this installed on Mandrake 9.1 from
Texstar sources) that when I go to the calendar module and then try to
go to another module (mail, summary, etc.) Evolution crashes. I do not
have to do anything in the Calendar or Tasks for this to happen
every time. Obviously, this is a real show stopper. Has anyone else
seen this problem? If so, is there a resolution or a bug already
submitted?
Thanks.
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Message: 10
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution 1.2.4 crashes in different cases
From: Frank Becker <frank beckerwelt de>
To: evolution lists ximian com
Organization:
Date: 04 Jul 2003 00:42:14 +0200
Am Don, 2003-07-03 um 15.09 schrieb Not Zed:
There should be more threads than that?
With version 1.2.x you need to run gdb on 'evolution-mail', and use
'thread apply all bt' to get the backtrace.
Thx, I'll try it tomorrow
FWIW installing the same version of gnomevfs might not help, if that is
the problem, perhaps an older version could be tried?
Recently everything worked fine with 1.2.4. But after an apt-get upgrade
the probs began
--
Frank Becker
--
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Telefon: 0561/17064
E-Mail: frank beckerwelt de
Web: www.beckerwelt.de
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Message: 11
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Calendar bug?
From: Mark Gordon <mtgordon ximian com>
To: Trey Sizemore <trey fastmail fm>
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Organization: Ximian, Inc.
Date: 03 Jul 2003 18:48:50 -0400
I haven't ever seen this. Does bug-buddy come up? Can you get a stack
trace?
-Mark Gordon
On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 18:02, Trey Sizemore wrote:
Did not receive a response to this last time so reposting:
I could not find an entry for this in Bugzilla (if there is one already
and I missed it somehow, please let me know where it is). I think this
may have been discussed on this list within the past week, but can no
longer find the thread to see what the outcome is/was.
I have noticed in Evo 1.4 (I have this installed on Mandrake 9.1 from
Texstar sources) that when I go to the calendar module and then try to
go to another module (mail, summary, etc.) Evolution crashes. I do not
have to do anything in the Calendar or Tasks for this to happen
every time. Obviously, this is a real show stopper. Has anyone else
seen this problem? If so, is there a resolution or a bug already
submitted?
Thanks.
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Message: 12
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Folder shared between users?
From: guenther <guenther rudersport de>
To: Mikhail Ramendik <mr ramendik ru>
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Date: 04 Jul 2003 00:57:52 +0200
I would like to set up a local folder shared between two users on the
same machine.
The reason is allowing both of them to check the same mailbox and keep
the mail from it in one location.
I can think of one way to do it, but it's somewhat strange (letting Evo
create the folder for each of the users, then replace both folders with
symlinks to the actual folder). But this seems like a rather strange
workaround. Perhaps a cleaner way is available?
IIRC I have done that successfully (Evo 1.2.x) even across file systems.
You will only need one single symlink (the directory that will be shared
with all subdirectories). I do not know of any other way, to accomplish
this -- besides an IMAP server allowing multiple connections.
Be warned: None of the underlying threads of Evolutions are designed for
concurrent usage! You likely *will* run into problems, when those users
use the mail at the same time. This won't be an issue, if the users are
only local.
The IMAP server allowing multiple concurrent connections is the clean
way and probably the best in terms of security.
...guenther
--
char
*t="\10pse\0r\0dtu\0 ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4";
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i<l;i++){ i%8?
c<<=1:
(c=*++x); c&128 && (s+=h); if (!(h>>=1)||!t[s+h]){
putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}
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Message: 13
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Calendar bug?
From: Trey Sizemore <trey fastmail fm>
To: Mark Gordon <mtgordon ximian com>
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Date: 03 Jul 2003 19:00:30 -0400
Yes, it gives me the ability to file a bug report (says the application
has crashed due to a fatal error). How do I get a stack trace?
Thanks.
On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 18:48, Mark Gordon wrote:
I haven't ever seen this. Does bug-buddy come up? Can you get a stack
trace?
-Mark Gordon
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Message: 14
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Calendar bug?
From: Mark Gordon <mtgordon ximian com>
To: Trey Sizemore <trey fastmail fm>
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Organization: Ximian, Inc.
Date: 03 Jul 2003 19:04:23 -0400
Bug-buddy should be able to generate the stack trace automatically. Go
ahead and use it to file the bug.
-Mark Gordon
On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 19:00, Trey Sizemore wrote:
Yes, it gives me the ability to file a bug report (says the application
has crashed due to a fatal error). How do I get a stack trace?
Thanks.
On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 18:48, Mark Gordon wrote:
I haven't ever seen this. Does bug-buddy come up? Can you get a stack
trace?
-Mark Gordon
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Message: 15
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution 1.2.4 crashes in different cases
From: Frank Becker <frank beckerwelt de>
To: evolution lists ximian com
Organization:
Date: 04 Jul 2003 08:11:27 +0200
Am Don, 2003-07-03 um 15.09 schrieb Not Zed:
With version 1.2.x you need to run gdb on 'evolution-mail', and use
'thread apply all bt' to get the backtrace.
Hope that this threadlist gives you more information. Sometimes
evolution already crashes if gdb loads the symbol table.
Thread 7 (Thread 5126 (LWP 1496)):
#0 0x4113587e in sigsuspend () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1 0x4039c879 in __pthread_wait_for_restart_signal () from
/lib/libpthread.so.0
#2 0x40399102 in pthread_cond_wait () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#3 0x40235a5a in e_msgport_wait () from
/usr/lib/evolution/1.2/libeutil.so.0
#4 0x402361bd in e_thread_busy () from
/usr/lib/evolution/1.2/libeutil.so.0
#5 0x4039a0ba in pthread_start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
Thread 6 (Thread 4101 (LWP 1495)):
#0 0x4113587e in sigsuspend () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1 0x4039c879 in __pthread_wait_for_restart_signal () from
/lib/libpthread.so.0
#2 0x40399102 in pthread_cond_wait () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#3 0x40235a5a in e_msgport_wait () from
/usr/lib/evolution/1.2/libeutil.so.0
#4 0x402361bd in e_thread_busy () from
/usr/lib/evolution/1.2/libeutil.so.0
#5 0x4039a0ba in pthread_start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
Thread 5 (Thread 3076 (LWP 1486)):
#0 0x4113587e in sigsuspend () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1 0x4039c879 in __pthread_wait_for_restart_signal () from
/lib/libpthread.so.0
#2 0x40399102 in pthread_cond_wait () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#3 0x40235a5a in e_msgport_wait () from
/usr/lib/evolution/1.2/libeutil.so.0
#4 0x402361bd in e_thread_busy () from
/usr/lib/evolution/1.2/libeutil.so.0
#5 0x4039a0ba in pthread_start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
Thread 4 (Thread 2051 (LWP 1483)):
#0 0x4113587e in sigsuspend () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1 0x4039c879 in __pthread_wait_for_restart_signal () from
/lib/libpthread.so.0
#2 0x40399102 in pthread_cond_wait () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#3 0x40235a5a in e_msgport_wait () from
/usr/lib/evolution/1.2/libeutil.so.0
#4 0x402361bd in e_thread_busy () from
/usr/lib/evolution/1.2/libeutil.so.0
#5 0x4039a0ba in pthread_start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
Thread 3 (Thread 1026 (LWP 1482)):
#0 0x4113587e in sigsuspend () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1 0x4039c879 in __pthread_wait_for_restart_signal () from
/lib/libpthread.so.0
#2 0x40399102 in pthread_cond_wait () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#3 0x40235a5a in e_msgport_wait () from
/usr/lib/evolution/1.2/libeutil.so.0
#4 0x402361bd in e_thread_busy () from
/usr/lib/evolution/1.2/libeutil.so.0
#5 0x4039a0ba in pthread_start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
Thread 2 (Thread 2049 (LWP 1481)):
#0 0x411d4bb0 in poll () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1 0x40399d96 in __pthread_manager () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
Thread 1 (Thread 1024 (LWP 1428)):
#0 0x411d4bb0 in poll () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1 0x41005f19 in g_main_is_running () from /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0
#2 0x410058cd in g_get_current_time () from /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0
#3 0x41005c7c in g_main_run () from /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0
#4 0x40f267e7 in gtk_main () from /usr/lib/libgtk-1.2.so.0
#5 0x40471ebd in bonobo_main () from /usr/lib/libbonobo.so.2
#6 0x080afb04 in main ()
#7 0x4112514f in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6
#0 0x411d4bb0 in poll () from /lib/libc.so.6
--
Frank Becker
--
Blumenaeckerweg 8a * 34128 Kassel
Telefon: 0561/17064
E-Mail: frank beckerwelt de
Web: www.beckerwelt.de
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