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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Reading Multiple Messages (Jason Tackaberry)
   2. Re: Evolution 1.2.4 crashes in different cases (Not Zed)
   3. Re: filters.xml (Not Zed)
   4. Re: How to sort by label? (Not Zed)
   5. Re: Date header bug? (Not Zed)
   6. Re: How to sort by label? (Mark R. Bowyer)
   7. RE: getting 1.4.X on RH 7.3, removing gnome breaks hpoj

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   8. Re: Small, but odd thing... (Not Zed)
   9. Re: Printing Problem (Not Zed)
  10. GnomePrintCupsPlugin-WARNING (Tig Kerkman)
  11. Problem with Inbox (Michael J. Rensing)
  12. Re: filters.xml (Michael J. Rensing)
  13. Re: Problem with Inbox (guenther)
  14. Calendar server ? (Michael Agbaglo)

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Message: 1
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Reading Multiple Messages
From: Jason Tackaberry <tack auc ca>
To: Yu-Hui Calvin Liu <Calvin Liu Sun COM>
Cc: trefftzs tcsn net, evolution lists ximian com
Date: 03 Jul 2003 07:40:14 -0400

On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 01:29, Yu-Hui Calvin Liu wrote:

But after I read them, they're still there. If I restart evolution, the
"unread" vfolder will be empty. That's what I want.


If you expunge a vFolder (Actions | Expunge, or CTRL-E), it will cause
all messages that no longer match the vFolders rules to go away.  No
need to restart.

Cheers,
Jason.


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Message: 2
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution 1.2.4 crashes in different cases
From: Not Zed <notzed ximian com>
To: Frank Becker <frank beckerwelt de>
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Organization:
Date: 03 Jul 2003 22:39:48 +0930

On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 16:46, Frank Becker wrote:

Am Mit, 2003-07-02 um 23.28 schrieb Mark Gordon:

A stack trace from the evolution-mail component might be useful.  See
instructions at http://support.ximian.com/q?65


I did it.



Thread 1 (Thread 1024 (LWP 4571)):
#0  0x40fedbb0 in poll () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x40e1ef19 in g_main_is_running () from /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0
#2  0x40e1e8cd in g_get_current_time () from /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0
#3  0x40e1ec7c in g_main_run () from /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0
#4  0x40d3f7e7 in gtk_main () from /usr/lib/libgtk-1.2.so.0
#5  0x40289ebd in bonobo_main () from /usr/lib/libbonobo.so.2
#6  0x08090e3a in main ()
#7  0x40f3e14f in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6
#0  0x40fedbb0 in poll () from /lib/libc.so.6


There should be more threads than that?

With version 1.2.x you need to run gdb on 'evolution-mail', and use
'thread apply all bt' to get the backtrace.

FWIW installing the same version of gnomevfs might not help, if that is
the problem, perhaps an older version could be tried?



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Message: 3
Subject: Re: [Evolution] filters.xml
From: Not Zed <notzed ximian com>
To: Michael Rensing <michael rensing shaw ca>
Cc: Evolution User Mailing-List <evolution ximian com>
Organization:
Date: 03 Jul 2003 22:46:00 +0930

On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 18:12, Xavier Bestel wrote:

Le jeu 03/07/2003 à 01:48, Michael Rensing a écrit :

Now that evolution appears to have the ability to pipe messages to
scripts, I'm thinking of shutting down procmail and letting evolution

do

all my filtering. The problem is that I've got a LOT of filter rules
defined in procmail. It looks like I'm in for a lot of mouse clicking.

One of the things that could help would be to edit the filters.xml

file

directly. Is it safe to do this, or would it screw up evolution?


I've already done that, it works well. I didn't even need to restart
Evo, the changes applied instantly.


Nod, they're read every time filtering occurs.

Be careful not to break the xml file in any way though, although i guess
at worst it will just not filter at all.

I'm impressed (well, surprised) evolution's filtering stuff would
adequately replace procmail, tho i guess it depends on the case.

Also note that evo can't yet use a script as a filter (i.e. the script
can't alter the message), only as a test.




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Message: 4
Subject: Re: [Evolution] How to sort by label?
From: Not Zed <notzed ximian com>
To: "Mark R. Bowyer" <Moredhel Earthling Net>
Cc: "Arthur S. Alexion" <arthur alexion com>, evolution ximian com
Organization:
Date: 03 Jul 2003 22:55:18 +0930

On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 20:29, Mark R. Bowyer wrote:

On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 07:47, Arthur S. Alexion wrote:

...  Vfolders -- IMO Evolution's best unique feature -- work much
better for me in a situation where I want to easily group labels or
other characteristics.  ...


Sorry to be pedantic, but this isn't a feature unique to or new in Evo.
It first appeared, to my knowledge, in CDE's "DtMail" application, there
called "Views".  I'm addicted to them to help me sort through my email
in the morning, so I can deal with important customer emails quickly
first, and then read through all mail to different email alias topics
later, in little groups.


Just dont let marketing hear you say it :)

Someone told me about something called Rome, i think, from memory(?),
some Solaris product, years ago, which also had views.



It was the fact that Evo had vfolders, so I could migrate my Views rules
over and still use that functionality, that sold me on Evolution over
all the other mail clients available to me under Gnome. =O)


Good to hear it proved adequate in that regard.


As to the original question, no, unfortunately you can't sort on label,
you can only sort on things which can be set as columns in the view.
Its something we should probably remember to add for 1.6.



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Message: 5
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Date header bug?
From: Not Zed <notzed ximian com>
To: Mike Dougherty <mdougherty xifin com>
Cc: Evolution <evolution ximian com>
Organization:
Date: 03 Jul 2003 23:03:21 +0930


It works in 1.2.2 here fine too.

Is this from a message on an imap server?  We might get the date by a
different mechanism that relies on the server parsing it, for the
message list view.


On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 02:59, Mike Dougherty wrote:

I did a quick search in Bugzilla and didn't see anything that pertains
to this. I'm not sure if it's a bug in Evolution or not.

It seems that the date column in Evolution's mail view (not really
sure what the name of this is) does display the date in certain
circumstances. At the moment the only difference I can identify is the
format of the date. When formatted as "Tue, 1 Jul 2003 10:23:46 -0700"
it appears as "10:23 AM", which is expected. However, when formatted
as "01 Jul 2003 10:14:05 -0700" it appears as a "?". I did a quick
check with Mutt and it sees that date just fine so I would assume "01
Jul 2003 10:14:05 -0700" is a valid date format.

Advice?

Mike






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Message: 6
Subject: Re: [Evolution] How to sort by label?
From: "Mark R. Bowyer" <Moredhel Earthling Net>
To: Not Zed <notzed ximian com>
Cc: "Mark R. Bowyer" <Moredhel Earthling Net>,
"Arthur S. Alexion" <arthur alexion com>, evolution ximian com
Date: 03 Jul 2003 14:36:43 +0100


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On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 14:25, Not Zed wrote:

Just dont let marketing hear you say it :)


Don't worry - I don't talk to Marketing ;O)


Someone told me about something called Rome, i think, from memory(?),
some Solaris product, years ago, which also had views.


That would have been "Roam", which as the name suggests, was intended
for Sun's road warriors to use for low-bandwidth email access, I think.=20
I've never used it, but heard that too =3DO)

Ta,
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Message: 7
Subject: RE: [Evolution] getting 1.4.X on RH 7.3, removing gnome breaks

hpoj

Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 15:49:25 +0200
From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Jaros=B3aw_Nozderko?=

<jaroslaw nozderko polkomtel com pl>

To: "Evolution List" <evolution lists ximian com>

I wish I knew it before... OK, is there an easy way=20
to downgrade from 1.4 to 1.2.4 using Red Carpet ?

Regards,
Jarek

Jaroslaw Nozderko
GSM +48 601131870 / Kapsch (22) 6075013
jaroslaw nozderko polkomtel com pl
IT/CCBS/RS - Analyst Programmer
=20


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Gordon [mailto:mtgordon ximian com]
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 12:51 AM
To: Zot O'Connor
Cc: Evolution List
Subject: Re: [Evolution] getting 1.4.X on RH 7.3, removing=20
gnome breaks
hpoj
=20
=20
Updating to Evolution 1.4 on Red Hat Linux 7.3 without concurrently
updating to XD2 is not currently recommended.  It requires enough
changes to GNOME, for example, that unless one is running KDE to start
with, it's likely to break things.  This might get resolved at some
point, but for now, my advice is to either stick with Evolution 1.2.4,
or upgrade to XD2, or upgrade to Red Hat Linux 8.0 (for which the
Evolution-only install is much more feasible).
=20
Red Carpet can take a lot of time trying to resolve especially
complicated dependency situations.  It could probably be more=20
efficient,
but I suspect it just took that long to come up with an advised course
of action.
=20
-Mark Gordon
=20
On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 18:36, Zot O'Connor wrote:

red-carpet has a few errors lately.
=20
It fails on finding a directory for evo 1.2, and connector=20

1.2.  How do

I tell it to stop looking?
=20
More important is when I try to get evo 1.4 I get:
=20
=20
        gdm     1:2.2.5.4-1.ximian.25   3.08 MB=20
           depends on: gnome-core
        gnome-core-devel        1:1.4.1-1.ximian.4      3.94 MB=20
           depends on: gnome-core
        hpoj    0.90-1  1.10 MB=20
        hpoj-devel      0.90-1  46 KB  =20
           depends on: hpoj
        libglade2-devel 1.99.9-2        312 KB =20
           conflicts with: libglade2
        libsane-hpoj    0.90-1  136 KB =20
           depends on: hpoj
        xojpanel        0.90-1  88 KB  =20
           depends on: hpoj          =20
=20
This is a RH 7.3 box.  I need hpoj for my printing. =20

Archives/Google do

not show any one else noticing this, and red-carpet does=20

not say why it

is being removed.
=20
It also loads
cups 1:1.1.14-15.4 4.07 MB --=09
     needed by: libgnomecups=09
=09
which I do not really want since I run lpr-ng successfully.
=20
libgnomecups 0.1.4-0.ximian.4.2 31 KB --=09
     needed by: libgnomeprint22=09
=20
libgnomeprint22 2.3.0.cvs.9-0.ximian.4.2 255 KB --=09
     needed by: evolution =09
=09
seems to be where this is coming from.
=20
=20
Also red-carpet seems to be taking up 10 minutes and all=20

the CPU and all

the memory while determining dependicies.  Is this due to=20

gnome2?  Is it

looping?
=20
Thanks.
=20
--=20
Zot O'Connor
=20
http://www.ZotConsulting.com
http://www.WhiteKnightHackers.com

=20
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Message: 8
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Small, but odd thing...
From: Not Zed <notzed ximian com>
To: Mike Kestner <mkestner ximian com>
Cc: Eric Lambart <ximian nomeaning net>,
Evolution <evolution ximian com>
Organization:
Date: 03 Jul 2003 23:21:14 +0930

On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 13:47, Mike Kestner wrote:

On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 21:55, Eric Lambart wrote:

On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 15:47, Cliff Wells wrote:

I notice that when I resize the headers on the message list pane, it
hits my hard drive constantly (my drive is a little noisy during

i/o).

Sort of eerie.


This is an old, known bug dating back to even before the 1.0 release,

I

believe.  It's in bugzilla, but I think it's been forgotten about.


Not forgotten about, as my response to another person who reported this
to the list in the last couple weeks will attest.  It's just way, way,
way down on the "bugfixes that would make an big impact" list.

If anyone is looking for a nice little evo (gal really) hacking project,
I'd be happy to point them in the right direction, though.  Maybe
rodrigo could put this one on the gnome-es bug day roster?


can't you just drop it in a timeout handler?  500ms should be about
right ...


http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=40482

Mike

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Message: 9
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Printing Problem
From: Not Zed <notzed ximian com>
To: dennis tuchler <dtuchler earthlink net>
Cc: Ximian Evolution Users <evolution ximian com>
Organization:
Date: 03 Jul 2003 23:30:29 +0930


We use gnome libraries, so the first place to look would probably be
other gnome applications that print using the same libraries.  e.g.
openoffice.org.

Another thing you could try is printing to a postscript file and dumping
that to the printer.

On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 02:34, dennis tuchler wrote:

This concerns printing from e-mail caught by Evolution 1.4, operating
under SuSE 8.2.  The printer is a Lexmark Optra E310.  The printer
connection is through CUPS.

When I right click on a piece of e-mail and select "print", I get an
error light on the printer.  When I copy the contents of the message to
Kwrite abd print from there, no problem.

I am sure that there is a setting I am missing.  Would someone help me?

Thanks

dj tuchler

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Message: 10
From: Tig Kerkman <tig kenosha org>
To: Evolution Mail List <evolution ximian com>
Organization: City of Kenosha
Date: 03 Jul 2003 10:21:16 -0500
Subject: [Evolution] GnomePrintCupsPlugin-WARNING

Evolution 1.4 on Redhat 8.0.

I have upgraded to Evolution 1.4 from 1.2 via red-carpet.  Everything is
working except that I cannot print.  The error I get at the command line
is:

(evolution:4702): GnomePrintCupsPlugin-WARNING **: The CUPS printer
trn1n could not be created



Then I get a Segmentation fault and evolution crashes.

I can print from other applications, and from the command line.

HELP.....


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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 08:35:44 -0700
From: "Michael J. Rensing" <michael rensing shaw ca>
To: evolution <evolution ximian com>
Subject: [Evolution] Problem with Inbox

Hi all, I'm having some trouble getting my Inbox to work the way I think
it should. I'm receiving my mail using fetchmail which puts it into the
standard /var/spool/mail/michael file.

I've configured an account in Evo with server type "Local Delivery",
which points to /var/spool/mail/michael. However, nothing ever shows up
in the Inbox.

If I configure an account with server type "Standard Unix mbox spool or
directory", Evo sees the mail in that Inbox. Problem is that it adds to
the clutter to have a separate account for this when I thought that the
standard Inbox should handle this.

Does anyone have any idea what's going on? Why can't I see any mail in
the Evolution Local Folders -> Inbox?

Regards,
Michael
--
Michael J. Rensing <michael rensing shaw ca>


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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 08:47:11 -0700
From: "Michael J. Rensing" <michael rensing shaw ca>
Subject: Re: [Evolution] filters.xml
To: evolution lists ximian com

On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 06:16, Not Zed wrote:


I'm impressed (well, surprised) evolution's filtering stuff would
adequately replace procmail, tho i guess it depends on the case.


Well, I'm not sure that it's adequate yet. I'm testing with a small
subset of my procmail filters, and it does seem to be rather slow.

I'm trying to find a way to have mail notification (or at least have the
new message count and bold font appear) whenever new messages appear in
a number of mailboxes. Evo doesn't update automatically for local
folders, and I keep having to manually check five or so different boxes
for new mail.


Also note that evo can't yet use a script as a filter (i.e. the script
can't alter the message), only as a test.


Already noted. This is a shortcoming, but not really for me. Luckily the
scripts I'm using can all do their job by checking the return code.

If altering the message were necessary, I guess one could get really
sneaky and have the script do the alteration and re-submit the message
to the mail spool and dump the unaltered version in /dev/null. The
filter system could be set up to recognize the modified message second
time around and deal with it appropriately.



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Message: 13
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Problem with Inbox
From: guenther <guenther rudersport de>
To: "Michael J. Rensing" <michael rensing shaw ca>
Cc: evolution <evolution ximian com>
Date: 03 Jul 2003 17:50:18 +0200



Hi all, I'm having some trouble getting my Inbox to work the way I think
it should. I'm receiving my mail using fetchmail which puts it into the
standard /var/spool/mail/michael file.

[...]


Does anyone have any idea what's going on? Why can't I see any mail in
the Evolution Local Folders -> Inbox?



This is a known issue and will be fixed in 1.4.1 (well, 1.4.2), which
will be released soon.

See bugzilla for more and a workaround:
 http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=43974

...guenther


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main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i<l;i++){ i%8?

c<<=1:

(c=*++x); c&128 && (s+=h); if (!(h>>=1)||!t[s+h]){

putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}



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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 17:10:57 +0200
From: Michael Agbaglo <byteshifter shifted-bytes de>
To: evolution lists ximian com
Subject: [Evolution] Calendar server ?

Hi !

I'd like to sync my calendar among serveral machines. I heard that
'wombat' is responsible for calendar and contact management. Where do I
find detailed information on it ? I there a non-proprietary solution too
? ( I'm using LDAP for my contacts ...)

M.




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