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Today's Topics:

   1. Unknown encoding (Armin Bauer)
   2. [evo1.4.0] "Spell Checker Document" doesn't work but not set
       greyed. (Yu-Hui Calvin Liu)
   3. How to sort by label? (Yu-Hui Calvin Liu)
   4. Re: How to sort by label? (Arthur S. Alexion)
   5. Re: How to sort by label? (Mark R. Bowyer)
   6. Re: Unknown encoding (Dan Winship)
   7. Error sending mail after upgrading to 1.4.0 (Fernando J. Andrade
Palacios)
   8. Re: Unknown encoding (Armin Bauer)
   9. A new bug?? (Cabral, Carlson)
  10. Re: memofile conduit (Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper)
  11. Re: Unknown encoding (Jeffrey Stedfast)
  12. Re: Error sending mail after upgrading to 1.4.0 (Jeffrey Stedfast)
  13. Re: A new bug?? (Jeffrey Stedfast)
  14. Re: Unknown encoding (Dan Winship)

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Message: 1
From: Armin Bauer <azrael desscon com>
To: Evolution <evolution lists ximian com>
Date: 01 Jul 2003 23:51:22 +0200
Subject: [Evolution] Unknown encoding

Hi,

what could this problem cause:

Trying to send a eMail to certain people they just receive something
like this:

From: Mysqlf [mailto:me blubb com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 9:53 AM
To: bla bla com
Subject: Something


This message uses a character set that is not supported by the Internet
Service.  To view the original message content,  open the attached
message.
If the text doesn't display correctly, save the attachment to disk, and
then
open it using a viewer that can display the original character set.
 <<message.txt>>

In the message.txt attachment is the original message together with the
orginial
attachment.

We are using the standard ISO-8859-1 encoding. Another strange thing is
the
X-Mailer the other person used:
X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)

Can someone give me a hint about this? Is this an old Exchange Server?
Can this be solved by switching the encoding to UTF-8?

Armin Bauer


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Message: 2
From: Yu-Hui Calvin Liu <Calvin Liu Sun COM>
To: evolution ximian com
Date: 02 Jul 2003 14:22:06 +0800
Subject: [Evolution] [evo1.4.0] "Spell Checker Document" doesn't work but
not set
 greyed.

Hi, there,
In evolution 1.4.0, if I uncheck the option of using spell checker in
[Settings] dialog, the "Shift+Ctrl+L" ("Spell Checker Document" in
"Edit" menu) won't work.

Is it a bug or a spec feature. Hopefully, it should be greyed in this
case.

Thanks.
Calvin


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Message: 3
From: Yu-Hui Calvin Liu <Calvin Liu Sun COM>
To: evolution ximian com
Date: 02 Jul 2003 16:20:52 +0800
Subject: [Evolution] How to sort by label?

Hi, there,

I can give each mail a label, something like "important", "to do",
"work" etc. This will highlight that mail with different colors. But I
can't sort mails by label, so I have to use the scroll bar to find them
in thread panel.

Did I miss something?

Thanks.
Calvin



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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 06:47:33 +0000
From: "Arthur S. Alexion" <arthur alexion com>
To: evolution ximian com
Subject: Re: [Evolution] How to sort by label?

Yu-Hui Calvin Liu wrote:

Hi, there,

I can give each mail a label, something like "important", "to do",
"work" etc. This will highlight that mail with different colors. But I
can't sort mails by label, so I have to use the scroll bar to find them
in thread panel.

Did I miss something?



Calvin,

You may or may not be able to sort -- I've never tried -- but you can
set up vfolders for the different labels you use.  For instance, I have
a filter that flags Red Hat Errata Alerts (emails advising of available
system updates) as they arrive, and a vfolder set up that filters for
that flag.  Vfolders -- IMO Evolution's best unique feature -- work much
better for me in a situation where I want to easily group labels or
other characteristics.  They, vfolders, are like saved filters that
appear as folders.  A message satisfying multiple vfolder definitions
will appear in all of those vfolders.  When working with messages in a
vfolder, you are working with the message itself, not a copy.


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Message: 5
Subject: Re: [Evolution] How to sort by label?
From: "Mark R. Bowyer" <Moredhel Earthling Net>
To: "Arthur S. Alexion" <arthur alexion com>
Cc: "Mark R. Bowyer" <Moredhel Earthling Net>, evolution ximian com
Date: 02 Jul 2003 11:59:00 +0100


--=-9HFRZKHas/Nea/H0VLZe
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 07:47, Arthur S. Alexion wrote:
...  Vfolders -- IMO Evolution's best unique feature -- work much=20
better for me in a situation where I want to easily group labels or=20
other characteristics.  ...

Sorry to be pedantic, but this isn't a feature unique to or new in Evo.=20
It first appeared, to my knowledge, in CDE's "DtMail" application, there
called "Views".  I'm addicted to them to help me sort through my email
in the morning, so I can deal with important customer emails quickly
first, and then read through all mail to different email alias topics
later, in little groups.

It was the fact that Evo had vfolders, so I could migrate my Views rules
over and still use that functionality, that sold me on Evolution over
all the other mail clients available to me under Gnome. =3DO)

Ta,
--=20
o o                                       mailto:Moredhel earthling net
/v\ark R. Bowyer  http://www.bowyer.screaming.net   Mark Bowyer Sun COM
`-'  ---------------------------------------  /"\
...fingerprint =3D 7924 9E9E 7B91 225E B065     \ / ASCII Ribbon
Campaign=20
1024D/19BC72F6   39D0 551D ABE6 1514 0DC1      X  Against HTML Mail
--------------------------------------------  / \=20
CORRIEDOO (n.)  The crucial moment of false recognition in a long
passageway encouter. Though both people are perfectly well aware that
the other is approaching, they must eventually pretend sudden
recognition. They now look up with a glassy smile, as if having spotted
each other for the firt time, (and are particulary delighted to have
done so) shouting out 'Haaaaaallllloooo!' as if to say 'Good grief!!
You!! Here!! Of all people! Will I never. Coo. Stap me vitals, etc.'  =20

--=-9HFRZKHas/Nea/H0VLZe
Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc
Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (SunOS)

iD8DBQA/ArryVR2r5hUUDcERAtK3AJ4sixL+Er+xV1fV7sKa2pbBenRFMwCfeLfP
aiODd1Y4Z74jnFwAseXXfI0=
=70ne
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--=-9HFRZKHas/Nea/H0VLZe--


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Message: 6
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Unknown encoding
From: Dan Winship <danw ximian com>
To: Armin Bauer <azrael desscon com>
Cc: Evolution <evolution lists ximian com>
Date: 02 Jul 2003 09:25:22 -0400

We are using the standard ISO-8859-1 encoding.

Are you sure? Evolution will automatically change charsets as needed if
you type (or otherwise include) any foreign characters that aren't in
ISO-8859-1. Do a "Show Email Source" on one of the messages in your Sent
folder to make sure that it actually did get sent as ISO-8859-1.

Another strange thing is the X-Mailer the other person used:
X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)

Can someone give me a hint about this? Is this an old Exchange Server?
Can this be solved by switching the encoding to UTF-8?

Yes, that's Exchange 5.5. But it really should understand latin1...
Switching to UTF-8 would probably be worse.

-- Dan

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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 06:39:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Fernando J. Andrade Palacios" <jotawolf yahoo com>
To: evolution lists ximian com
Subject: [Evolution] Error sending mail after upgrading to 1.4.0

Hello I have this problem and I couldn´t solve it:

I upgraded from 1.0.8 default in my RH 8.0 to 1.4.0
using the ximian installer.

After doing this I recive mail via pop3 with no
problem at all but when the sending mail process
starts it shows this error message:

Error while performing operation:
MAIL FROM response error: Command not implemented.

A good cyber-cityzen told me to change the /etc/hosts
but  after trying all the posible combinations the
problem persist.

I use a qmail with no patches in the server.
I use the default pop3 that comes with qmail.

The smtp log shows this:

@400000003f02da08018c5acc tcpserver: status: 1/20
@400000003f02da080191f464 tcpserver: pid 6916 from
192.168.0.122
@400000003f02da0802036b44 tcpserver: ok 6916
eserver.eserv-andina.com:192.168.0.180:25
:192.168.0.122::32854
@400000003f02da080440f764 tcpserver: end 6916 status 0
@400000003f02da0804410aec tcpserver: status: 0/20

where *.122 is my host an *.180 is the server.

Please help, i really don´t wanto to change my client
and I rather not to downgrade evolution.

Fernando

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Message: 8
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Unknown encoding
From: Armin Bauer <azrael desscon com>
To: Dan Winship <danw ximian com>
Cc: Evolution <evolution lists ximian com>
Date: 02 Jul 2003 16:35:11 +0200

This was the encoding from the mail that did not work correctly:
--=-rhJSTEbWAELwhpEgdA80
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This is the encoding after we changed the field encoding under
preferences (which was indeed empty) to the ISO charset:
--=-qBXbhLmmkXJWkHYXL/IZ
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Is this correct now?

Another strange thing is this:
This is the encoding of the HTML-Part:
--=-qBXbhLmmkXJWkHYXL/IZ
Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Why is it still utf-8?

Armin Bauer

On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 15:25, Dan Winship wrote:
We are using the standard ISO-8859-1 encoding.

Are you sure? Evolution will automatically change charsets as needed if
you type (or otherwise include) any foreign characters that aren't in
ISO-8859-1. Do a "Show Email Source" on one of the messages in your Sent
folder to make sure that it actually did get sent as ISO-8859-1.

Another strange thing is the X-Mailer the other person used:
X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)

Can someone give me a hint about this? Is this an old Exchange Server?
Can this be solved by switching the encoding to UTF-8?

Yes, that's Exchange 5.5. But it really should understand latin1...
Switching to UTF-8 would probably be worse.

-- Dan


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Message: 9
From: "Cabral, Carlson" <ccabral craworld com>
To: evolution lists ximian com
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 11:17:04 -0400
Subject: [Evolution] A new bug??

This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand
this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C340AC.FEB42FC0
Content-Type: text/plain

Hello folks,

I am not sure if this has come to your attention yet, but I came across
the
following situation:

I was trying to send a message using Evolution 1.4 (RH9 - XD2) and wanted
to
"bcc" somebody that was _not_ in my contacts list. Well, the "bcc" field
is
greyed out so I can't include (just type it in) an address that is not in
the contacts list. Should it be this way? I don't remember having that
problem with 1.2.x. I know I can toggle the "bcc" field in the message
compose window doing "View --> Bcc Field", but shouldn't it be that if you
are in the "select address" dialog box you could simply have the ability
to
type in the address for the "bcc" field or whatever?

Any suggestions? Am I overlooking something?

Thanks,

Carlson

------_=_NextPart_001_01C340AC.FEB42FC0
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; =
charset=3DUS-ASCII">
<META NAME=3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D"MS Exchange Server version =
5.5.2653.12">
<TITLE>A new bug??</TITLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Hello folks,</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I am not sure if this has come to your =
attention yet, but I came across the following situation:</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I was trying to send a message using =
Evolution 1.4 (RH9 - XD2) and wanted to &quot;bcc&quot; somebody that =
was _not_ in my contacts list. Well, the &quot;bcc&quot; field is =
greyed out so I can't include (just type it in) an address that is not =
in the contacts list. Should it be this way? I don't remember having =
that problem with 1.2.x. I know I can toggle the &quot;bcc&quot; field =
in the message compose window doing &quot;View --&gt; Bcc Field&quot;, =
but shouldn't it be that if you are in the &quot;select address&quot; =
dialog box you could simply have the ability to type in the address for =
the &quot;bcc&quot; field or whatever?</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Any suggestions? Am I overlooking =
something?</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Thanks,</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Carlson</FONT>
</P>

</BODY>
</HTML>
------_=_NextPart_001_01C340AC.FEB42FC0--

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Message: 10
Subject: Re: [Evolution] memofile conduit
From: Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper <vR movingparts net>
To: Evolution List <evolution lists ximian com>
Date: 02 Jul 2003 11:19:08 -0400

I get this too.  I've filed a bug for it
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114987 and it was quickly
marked as a duplicate.  There's several bug reports in bugzilla for
memo_file.  Does ANYONE have a workaround or solution?

On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 12:45, Mark Gordon wrote:
gnome-pilot-conduits, at least on my box (running Red Hat Linux 8.0).
YMMV.

-Mark Gordon

On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 11:28, clyde wrote:
Getting a segmentation fault on the memofile conduit (and only the
memofile conduit). Which package contains this conduit?


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 `
 | All brontosauruses are thin at one end, much MUCH thicker
 | in the middle, and then thin again at the far end.  That is
 | the theory that I have and which is mine, and what it is too.
 ,
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Message: 11
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Unknown encoding
From: Jeffrey Stedfast <fejj ximian com>
To: Armin Bauer <azrael desscon com>
Cc: Dan Winship <danw ximian com>,
Evolution <evolution lists ximian com>
Date: 02 Jul 2003 11:28:05 -0400

I fixed the 'charset=' (without a charset) bug in 1.4.1, iirc it had to
do with the charset not existing on the local unix system (we forgot to
filter it thru e_iconv_charset_name)

anyways, 1.4.1 should set charset=iso-8859-1

Jeff

On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 10:35, Armin Bauer wrote:
This was the encoding from the mail that did not work correctly:
--=-rhJSTEbWAELwhpEgdA80
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This is the encoding after we changed the field encoding under
preferences (which was indeed empty) to the ISO charset:
--=-qBXbhLmmkXJWkHYXL/IZ
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Is this correct now?

Another strange thing is this:
This is the encoding of the HTML-Part:
--=-qBXbhLmmkXJWkHYXL/IZ
Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Why is it still utf-8?

Armin Bauer

On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 15:25, Dan Winship wrote:
We are using the standard ISO-8859-1 encoding.

Are you sure? Evolution will automatically change charsets as needed
if
you type (or otherwise include) any foreign characters that aren't in
ISO-8859-1. Do a "Show Email Source" on one of the messages in your
Sent
folder to make sure that it actually did get sent as ISO-8859-1.

Another strange thing is the X-Mailer the other person used:
X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)

Can someone give me a hint about this? Is this an old Exchange
Server?
Can this be solved by switching the encoding to UTF-8?

Yes, that's Exchange 5.5. But it really should understand latin1...
Switching to UTF-8 would probably be worse.

-- Dan

_______________________________________________
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http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
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fejj ximian com  - www.ximian.com


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Message: 12
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Error sending mail after upgrading to 1.4.0
From: Jeffrey Stedfast <fejj ximian com>
To: "Fernando J. Andrade Palacios" <jotawolf yahoo com>
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Date: 02 Jul 2003 11:32:41 -0400

your symptoms are the same as a few other users who are suffering from a
bug in glibc 2.3.2 where the gethostbyaddr_r() function fulls the
hostname string with garbage (sometimes with \n's) and so when Evolution
sends the EHLO <hostname> command, it unknowingly sends a \n or 2 and
gets the client and server out of sync.

unfortunately we have no idea how to work around this glibc bug :-(

Jeff

On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 09:39, Fernando J. Andrade Palacios wrote:
Hello I have this problem and I couldnt solve it:

I upgraded from 1.0.8 default in my RH 8.0 to 1.4.0
using the ximian installer.

After doing this I recive mail via pop3 with no
problem at all but when the sending mail process
starts it shows this error message:

Error while performing operation:
MAIL FROM response error: Command not implemented.

A good cyber-cityzen told me to change the /etc/hosts
but  after trying all the posible combinations the
problem persist.

I use a qmail with no patches in the server.
I use the default pop3 that comes with qmail.

The smtp log shows this:

@400000003f02da08018c5acc tcpserver: status: 1/20
@400000003f02da080191f464 tcpserver: pid 6916 from
192.168.0.122
@400000003f02da0802036b44 tcpserver: ok 6916
eserver.eserv-andina.com:192.168.0.180:25
:192.168.0.122::32854
@400000003f02da080440f764 tcpserver: end 6916 status 0
@400000003f02da0804410aec tcpserver: status: 0/20

where *.122 is my host an *.180 is the server.

Please help, i really dont wanto to change my client
and I rather not to downgrade evolution.

Fernando

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Message: 13
Subject: Re: [Evolution] A new bug??
From: Jeffrey Stedfast <fejj ximian com>
To: "Cabral, Carlson" <ccabral craworld com>
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Date: 02 Jul 2003 11:34:01 -0400

sounds like a bug to me. please surf on over to bugzilla.ximian.com and
file a bug under Evolution::Contacts (please don't submit it as a mailer
bug)

thanks,

Jeff

On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 11:17, Cabral, Carlson wrote:
Hello folks,

I am not sure if this has come to your attention yet, but I came
across the following situation:

I was trying to send a message using Evolution 1.4 (RH9 - XD2) and
wanted to "bcc" somebody that was _not_ in my contacts list. Well, the
"bcc" field is greyed out so I can't include (just type it in) an
address that is not in the contacts list. Should it be this way? I
don't remember having that problem with 1.2.x. I know I can toggle the
"bcc" field in the message compose window doing "View --> Bcc Field",
but shouldn't it be that if you are in the "select address" dialog box
you could simply have the ability to type in the address for the "bcc"
field or whatever?

Any suggestions? Am I overlooking something?

Thanks,

Carlson
--
Jeffrey Stedfast
Evolution Hacker - Ximian, Inc.
fejj ximian com  - www.ximian.com


--__--__--

Message: 14
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Unknown encoding
From: Dan Winship <danw ximian com>
To: Armin Bauer <azrael desscon com>
Cc: Evolution <evolution lists ximian com>
Date: 02 Jul 2003 11:38:05 -0400

Another strange thing is this:
This is the encoding of the HTML-Part:
--=-qBXbhLmmkXJWkHYXL/IZ
Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Why is it still utf-8?

We always use UTF-8 for text/html parts, because some spec says you're
supposed to. Although we don't actually send UTF-8. Non-ASCII characters
get encoded as HTML entities (&#999; or whatever), because that's the
most portable across different email clients.

-- Dan


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