Re: [Evolution] CTRL+ bug closed rudely.

["Zot O'Connor" <zot zotconsulting com>]

On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 15:29, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> Apologies, I didn't mean for it to sound rude. But due to popular
> demand, the behaviour was changed. I'm sorry that you don't agree with
> it, but surely you can understand that we can't please everyone.

I am wondering what "popular demand" means. I do not remember any
threads on the list about this (I could have missed them).   How does
one determine this?  I am not sure there is popular demand here.  It
seems this was a change from expected behavior, so no one clamored for
keeping it the same way.  Should I start a thread "keep the send button
sending mail?"

I still haven't come up with a case where changing one windows or
instance changes all others, when you not are *changing a setting* and
doing do on purpose.  I would expect this if I was effecting setting in
options, or look and feel.  Even NT/W2K/XP command prompts ask you if
changes done to settings (like screen size) effect this window, or all
*new* windows.


> Jeff
>
> On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 17:39, Zot O'Connor wrote:
> > http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=30842
> >
> > Package: Evolution
> > Priority: Major
> > Version: 1.1.1.99
> > Synopsis: View font increase size now changes fonts for all open widnow panes
> > Bugzilla-Product: Evolution
> > Bugzilla-Component: Mailer
> >
> > Description:
> > Before this snapshot, the CTRL+ feature increased the font for the
> > visible window.
> >
> > Now it is increasing all of them.  This is bad.
> >
> > The main reason *I* use the feature is HTML/RTF mail from outlook users
> > that use a tiny tiny font.  I increase the font size twice, and it is
> > fine.  But now, all of my other windows are huge and unreadable.
> >
> > This new behavior does not match any other behavior.  Take Mozilla for
> > instance, when you CTRL+ in a tab, it effects no other tabs or windows.
> >
> > I can understand having a default increase setting for poor eyes, or
> > mointors (fonts), but it should be a setting, not a on-the-fly control.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------- Additional Comments From Jeff Stedfast 2002-09-23 15:43 -------
> >
> >
> > yea, because people complained that it didn't before.
> >
> > so... NOTABUG
> >
> >
> > -------------
> > 1)  I was asked by someone at Ximian to open this as a bug. To close it
> > in such a manner seems rude.
> >
> > 2) So, what is the process for deciding this?  If "people complain" now
> > will you just change it back?  Is there a public forum for this?
> >
> >  I believe it was correct before.  If people need to change the default
> > look and feel for all window panes, then it should be a setting under
> > options (perhaps also a menu setting under view. like view -> Text size
> > -> set for all windows.  and also -> make default setting
> > (permanently).  It seems like people who want all windows enlarged,
> > really want the permanent setting (they have small fonts, or bad eyes).
> >
> > As I point out above, this breaks the patterns of other X apps, Mozilla
> > being the number 1, but also multiple instances of things like
> > gnome-term, gimp, and others, keep per window sizes.  I mean you would
> > not expect enlarging one image in the gimp to enlarge all shown images
> > would you?  And to say, "but they are both text" is bogus, they are
> > usually plain text, and "something" from Outlook.
> >
> >
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> > Zot O'Connor <zot zotconsulting com>
> > White Knight Hackers, Inc.
> >
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> Jeffrey Stedfast
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