Re: [Evolution-hackers] language identification and translation plugin

[Francis Tyers <spectre ivixor net>]

Thanks, :)

The language identification code is already mostly written, I have code
in CVS that does this (in fact, this is why I am thinking of writing an
evolution plugin, I want a real world app to test my library...

Ok, I was wondering about that (re: headers), I'll have a look into
these tags...

Another thing I just thought of was would it be possible to arrange it
so that it would be possible to filter on language?

I'll have a look at doing it with a context menu...

Thanks again for your input,

Fran



On Tue, 2004-12-07 at 21:51 +0800, Not Zed wrote:
> 
> Hi Francis,
> 
> Interesting idea.
> 
> Although you could add a language translation button to the main
> display, it will be a significant amount of work, as the text display
> formatter is one of the more complex in the codebase.  I'm not sure
> you want the overhead for viewing all messages either.
> 
> Probably for a start I just recommend adding a main or context menu
> item to perform any work, and then do the language identifcation on
> the fly once it is invoked.  You can't add new headers to mails (for
> starters, there is physically no way to do this with the mail
> abstraction api and specifically with IMAP at all), although you can
> add things called 'tags' to messages; you could use this to cache
> language identification information, if such caching were to be deemed
> necessary.
> 
> The language identification and message reconstruction phases are the
> bulk of the work, I think for starters if there is a way to invoke it
> and test it, it should be sufficient.  Before you get bogged down in
> details like a really fancy, interactive user interface for it.
> 
> Regards,
> Michael
> 
> On Tue, 2004-12-07 at 12:39 +0000, Francis Tyers wrote: 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I'm interested in writing a plugin that automatically identifies the
> > language of incoming emails and allows people to translate them using a
> > range of online translation mechanisms.
> > 
> > I was asking on #evolution about eplugin and what the best way would be
> > to integrate it into the evolution mail interface. I was advised to
> > refer my question to this list...
> > 
> > I had an idea of adding a header to the email when it comes in (i.e.
> > X-Language-Identified or similar) and then having a button in the top
> > right hand corner of the header display (not sure what this is called in
> > evolution lingo ;) to open up the available translation options dialog.
> > 
> > Does this sound feasible? Or would a different method be more
> > appropriate? 
> > 
> > Any input would be gratefully received,
> > 
> > Francis Tyers
> > 
> > PS. I hang out on #evolution as "spectre"
> > 
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