Re: [Epiphany] Toolbar editor suggestions

[Marco Pesenti Gritti <mpeseng tin it>]

On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 12:30, Seth Nickell wrote:
> On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 01:19, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
> > On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 22:24, Seth Nickell wrote:
> > > Of course, this probably isn't implementable, but here's to hoping ;-)
> > > 
> > > http://beauty.stanford.edu/tbe-seth.png
> > > 
> > > The red highlighting really reduces the need to document the drag
> > > function because it makes it much more obvious where you are supposed to
> > > drag to. Dragging "out" of the toolbar is a little more tricky to figure
> > > out, but the label above the "tools box" should help clarify what you
> > > can and can't do.
> > 
> > Any reason the red box is only on the buttons ? Also location and
> > spinner are reorderable in current implementation.
> > I like the idea. I hope using a red box is not an accessibility problem
> > though, but I bet there is a way to solve that.
> 
> Hmm... I didn't know these were reorderable too. Are they removable? The
> main use of the red box is to suggest you can drag there, though I guess
> if the other components are re-orderable, they should be in the red box
> too.

Yeah both reorderable and removable.

> A red box shouldn't be an accesibility problem as long as you also
> include the "Toolbar" label as shown in the shot. In fact, the highlight
> should work just fine even if you couldn't see colour at all with the
> Toolbar label present.

Great. We are going to have already enough accessibility problems ;)

> > > I'm not sure how it would work, but I might also suggest having the red
> > > highlighting flash off and on once when you actually initiate a drag.
> > > That might be a bad thing, I'm not sure. In any case, I wouldn't worry
> > > about that at first.
> > > 
> > > I would also suggest, if it is possible, letting people drag tools out
> > > of the toolbar just by dragging them out and dropping them, not
> > > requiring them to return the tools to the Customize Toolbars box. I can
> > > imagine people never figuring out that removing tools requires dragging
> > > all the way over there.
> > 
> > I agree on this too (and hope it's possible to implement it).
> 
> One option might be not to let them drag tools out anywhere (if you
> can't get events for that, though you should be able to get "failed
> drag" events, right?)... but to only detect dragging tools out over an
> ephy window. If people don't drag it back to the box they'll probably
> just drag it into the window 20 pixels below the toolbar anyway.

Yeah, sounds like a good idea. I'll fallback to this if it's necessary.

Marco