Re: [Epiphany] Toolbar editor suggestions

[Marco Pesenti Gritti <mpeseng tin it>]

On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 12:30, Seth Nickell wrote:
> On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 01:19, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
> > On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 22:24, Seth Nickell wrote:
> > > Of course, this probably isn't implementable, but here's to hoping ;-)
> > > 
> > > http://beauty.stanford.edu/tbe-seth.png
> > > 
> > > The red highlighting really reduces the need to document the drag
> > > function because it makes it much more obvious where you are supposed to
> > > drag to. Dragging "out" of the toolbar is a little more tricky to figure
> > > out, but the label above the "tools box" should help clarify what you
> > > can and can't do.
> > 
> > Any reason the red box is only on the buttons ? Also location and
> > spinner are reorderable in current implementation.
> > I like the idea. I hope using a red box is not an accessibility problem
> > though, but I bet there is a way to solve that.
> 
> Hmm... I didn't know these were reorderable too. Are they removable? The
> main use of the red box is to suggest you can drag there, though I guess
> if the other components are re-orderable, they should be in the red box
> too.
> 
> A red box shouldn't be an accesibility problem as long as you also
> include the "Toolbar" label as shown in the shot. In fact, the highlight
> should work just fine even if you couldn't see colour at all with the
> Toolbar label present.

So I looked at how galeon/evo implements their red arrows and there are bad news :/
They use a popup window. You can see the problems that cause on this bug (Havoc comment):
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105002

An alternative would be to put the toolbars inside a container like:
http://mpgritti.oltrelinux.com/tbe.png
Would it work ? Looks a bit ugly to me :/

Another way to implement your suggestion would be to have a special container that allows to
put a widget at x,y,z as toplevel container of epiphany window. That would make our editor
hardly reusable though.

In general the two possible solution for this issue seem:
- Have a way to show layered widgets at gtk or wm level (I guess we can hardly get something like this)
- Find a way to highlight toolbars that doesnt require "shaped" widgets

What do you think ?

Marco