Re: [ConsoleKit] [gdm-list] Impact of ConsoleKit deprecation
- From: Brian Cameron <brian cameron oracle com>
- To: Lennart Poettering <mztabzr 0pointer de>
- Cc: gnome-release-team <release-team gnome org>, Antoine Jacoutot <ajacoutot bsdfrog org>, distributor-list gnome org, "consolekit lists freedesktop org" <consolekit lists freedesktop org>, "gdm-list gnome org" <gdm-list gnome org>
- Subject: Re: [ConsoleKit] [gdm-list] Impact of ConsoleKit deprecation
- Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 10:25:22 -0600
On 01/27/12 10:06 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Fri, 27.01.12 09:54, Brian Cameron (brian cameron oracle com) wrote:
Free software is not a democracy.
Thank goodness. Did I ever suggest free software had anything to do
with a democracy? I personally would not think or suggest that good
communication can only happen in a democracy.
When Jon and I decided to deprecate CK we looked for somebody who did a
good job in maintaining this kind of low-level software, and we found a
very capable person in Martin Pitt who we have worked with in the past,
and has regularly contributed fixes to low-level components of the free
I am glad it is clear that maintainers in the GNOME community feel
comfortable making such decisions without identifying stakeholders
or making an effort to communicate with them. I think it is easier
to have the right expectations when this is clear.
We think Martin is very qualified as a maintainer for
this and Martin Pitt was willing to take over, and invest the time
necessary to maintain CK.
Really, I am not unhappy with the decision. I am sure Martin will do a
great job and am looking forward to working with him. I do trust your
and Jon's ability to judge a good maintainer.
If I am unhappy at anything, it is more the general lack of effort at
communication at a time when the GNOME community is doing so much
re-engineering of low level interfaces. My personal concern is that I
worry that some stakeholders may loose interest in cooperative efforts
if communication gets too bad. I think there already has been too much
fragmentation in the FreeDesktop display manager space since GDM 2.22
made ConsoleKit a hard dependency. Better technical leadership would
likely have avoided this fragmentation.
But, what do I know? Sometimes fragmentation can be good for a free
software project. I think the egcs project ended up making the gcc
compiler a better product in the long run, for example.
Please work with Martin Pitt as soon as he takes over control, I am sure
he'll be happy to work with you, too.
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